Touché. "Digital skeptic" indeed 🙄
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 20:45 Jan Gerlach, <[email protected]> wrote: > Friends, we may have our disagreements with this songwriter from the > 1990s, but let's stay polite! > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:40 PM Owen Blacker <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Well he's quite the wanker, isn't he? >> >> >> On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 20:09 Liam Wyatt, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> And the very weird gloating has begun >>> https://twitter.com/davidclowery/status/1110513807036727296?s=21 >>> >>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 20:54, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> To look on the bright side, at least this means that we'll win the >>>> Reiss-Engelhorn Museum v. Wikimedia Foundation lawsuit (due to article 14 >>>> of the directive). As to the rest of it, quite disappointing indeed. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Jan Gerlach <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for sending this over, Mārtiņš! >>>>> >>>>> Here's our statement: >>>>> https://twitter.com/wikimediapolicy/status/1110572603217862656 >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:31 AM Mārtiņš Bruņenieks <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Detailed voting data available: >>>>>> >>>>>> Votes: >>>>>> 22.whether to accept amendments >>>>>> 23.approve directive >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+PV+20190326+RES-RCV+DOC+PDF+V0//EN&language=EN >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Just these votes on Julia Reda's web page: >>>>>> https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mārtiņš >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM Jan Gerlach <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So close. More work to do towards national implementation. We'll >>>>>>> have a statement out later today. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your help, everyone! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:59 AM Katherine Maher < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So narrow, that hurts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:56 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry, that was the vote on whether to accept amendments. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Directive was approved 348-274. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> D >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 12:53 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> написа: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Directive approved >>>>>>>>>> by 5 votes >>>>>>>>>> 317 to 312 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 10:09 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> написа: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Today after 12:30 we expect the European Parliament in >>>>>>>>>>> Strasbourg to vote on the copyright file. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> First there will be a vote on whether to allow amendments or >>>>>>>>>>> just vote the entire package as is. Only if there is a majority for >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> will votes on deleting Articles 11 and 13 be allowed. I am >>>>>>>>>>> attaching a >>>>>>>>>>> voting list with recommendations on Article 13, so you can follow >>>>>>>>>>> the vote. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Stream is here: >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/website/webstreaming.html?event=20190326-0900-PLENARY >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What happens if the reform is passed as is: >>>>>>>>>>> The Council will nod this off at a General Council meeting on 9 >>>>>>>>>>> April. Then it will be published in the official journal and Member >>>>>>>>>>> States >>>>>>>>>>> will have 24 months to transpose the new rules. In this case we >>>>>>>>>>> will work >>>>>>>>>>> on national implementations. There is a lot we can to remedy *some* >>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>> effects of Article 13 & open the door to future litigation. We can >>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>> widen the gains some of the exceptions provide at least nationally. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What happen is the European Parliament amends the reform: >>>>>>>>>>> The entire text goes to Council and then the Member States >>>>>>>>>>> governments need to decide if they accept it as is or want to >>>>>>>>>>> further amend >>>>>>>>>>> it and negotiate with the EP. In this case we focus on the EP >>>>>>>>>>> elections, as >>>>>>>>>>> a move before them would be unlikely. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Very hypothetical: >>>>>>>>>>> If a country, such as Germany for instance, suddenly changes its >>>>>>>>>>> behaviour on 9 April, it could theoretically still stop the >>>>>>>>>>> package. But >>>>>>>>>>> copyright is already agreed upon in Council and put down as an "A >>>>>>>>>>> item" for >>>>>>>>>>> the 9 April meeting. A items are considered purely procedural, get >>>>>>>>>>> nodded >>>>>>>>>>> off and not even discussed (as agreement and a vote have already >>>>>>>>>>> taken >>>>>>>>>>> place). There is only one time, to my knowledge, that such an A >>>>>>>>>>> item was >>>>>>>>>>> pulled back. The Software Patents Directive. I think it is extremely >>>>>>>>>>> unlikely to happen again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for you help and support. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers from Strasbourg, >>>>>>>>>>> Dimi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Katherine Maher (she/her) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Executive Director >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Publicpolicy mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Publicpolicy mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >> > _______________________________________________ > Publicpolicy mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy >
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