Well he's quite the wanker, isn't he?

On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, 20:09 Liam Wyatt, <[email protected]> wrote:

> And the very weird gloating has begun
> https://twitter.com/davidclowery/status/1110513807036727296?s=21
>
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 at 20:54, Ryan Kaldari <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> To look on the bright side, at least this means that we'll win the
>> Reiss-Engelhorn Museum v. Wikimedia Foundation lawsuit (due to article 14
>> of the directive). As to the rest of it, quite disappointing indeed.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:10 AM Jan Gerlach <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sending this over, Mārtiņš!
>>>
>>> Here's our statement:
>>> https://twitter.com/wikimediapolicy/status/1110572603217862656
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:31 AM Mārtiņš Bruņenieks <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Detailed voting data available:
>>>>
>>>> Votes:
>>>> 22.whether to accept amendments
>>>> 23.approve directive
>>>>
>>>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//NONSGML+PV+20190326+RES-RCV+DOC+PDF+V0//EN&language=EN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just these votes on Julia Reda's web page:
>>>> https://juliareda.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/copyrightvote.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Mārtiņš
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 2:05 PM Jan Gerlach <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So close. More work to do towards national implementation. We'll have
>>>>> a statement out later today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help, everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:59 AM Katherine Maher <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So narrow, that hurts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:56 Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, that was the vote on whether to accept amendments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Directive was approved 348-274.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 12:53 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> написа:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Directive approved
>>>>>>>> by 5 votes
>>>>>>>> 317 to 312
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> На вт, 26.03.2019 г. в 10:09 ч. Dimitar Parvanov Dimitrov <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> написа:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Today after 12:30 we expect the European Parliament in Strasbourg
>>>>>>>>> to vote on the copyright file.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First there will be a vote on whether to allow amendments or just
>>>>>>>>> vote the entire package as is. Only if there is a majority for that 
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> votes on deleting Articles 11 and 13 be allowed. I am attaching a 
>>>>>>>>> voting
>>>>>>>>> list with recommendations on Article 13, so you can follow the vote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stream is here:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/website/webstreaming.html?event=20190326-0900-PLENARY
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What happens if the reform is passed as is:
>>>>>>>>> The Council will nod this off at a General Council meeting on 9
>>>>>>>>> April. Then it will be published in the official journal and Member 
>>>>>>>>> States
>>>>>>>>> will have 24 months to transpose the new rules. In this case we will 
>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>> on national implementations. There is a lot we can to remedy *some* 
>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>> effects of Article 13 & open the door to future litigation. We can 
>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>> widen the gains some of the exceptions provide at least nationally.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What happen is the European Parliament amends the reform:
>>>>>>>>> The entire text goes to Council and then the Member States
>>>>>>>>> governments need to decide if they accept it as is or want to further 
>>>>>>>>> amend
>>>>>>>>> it and negotiate with the EP. In this case we focus on the EP 
>>>>>>>>> elections, as
>>>>>>>>> a move before them would be unlikely.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Very hypothetical:
>>>>>>>>> If a country, such as Germany for instance, suddenly changes its
>>>>>>>>> behaviour on 9 April, it could theoretically still stop the package. 
>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>> copyright is already agreed upon in Council and put down as an "A 
>>>>>>>>> item" for
>>>>>>>>> the 9 April meeting. A items are considered purely procedural, get 
>>>>>>>>> nodded
>>>>>>>>> off and not even discussed (as agreement and a vote have already taken
>>>>>>>>> place). There is only one time, to my knowledge, that such an A item 
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> pulled back. The Software Patents Directive. I think it is extremely
>>>>>>>>> unlikely to happen again.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for you help and support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers from Strasbourg,
>>>>>>>>> Dimi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Katherine Maher (she/her)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Executive Director
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
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