I'm not talking about facebook/youtube type sites, I'm talking about a
real web application
where users access information,  enter information, search and analyze
information, and visualize information.
I'm not creating web sites for popularity contests, but using the web
as a platform for real
software applications that provide an actual (business) service. For
that it's much better to use
more client side (e.g. javascript) code to make it seem like a real
desktop app.
If you just want to create some flicker slideshow derivative, then yes
you can use php or whatever other
server side "application" code.

On Jan 31, 8:25 pm, Michael Bayer <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Tycon wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm planning on using GWT only for client side code and doing all
> > server calls
> > using JSON, and not using GWT's RPC mechanism. So I guess that would
> > avoid the problem you are talking about ?
>
> or you could just use jquery...ive no idea how you'd use only the  
> "client side" portion of GWT.  from what I could tell it seemed like  
> the entire server-to-client is spit out from a single monolithic  
> compilation and there was certainly no easy way to just use "the  
> client".
>
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but neither Perl/CGI not Pylons/Rails etc
> > CANNOT
> > be used to create a gmail-like application, unless you resort to hand
> > writing
> > the entire UI (which runs wholly on the client) in javascript (good
> > luck with
> > that !).
>
> i think there are alternatives which would result in easier to read  
> code.   jquery can go a very long way.
>
> > were written using GWT-like technology, and IMO google apps are the
> > best example
> > of smart efficient next generation web apps.
>
> theyre tremendously complex and reliant upon special build tools.    
> facebook AFAIK is just php and is a more compelling client side  
> experience than anything I've seen google do.
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