Hi Chris!

Am 24.03.2013 17:18, schrieb Chris McDonough:
> On Sun, 2013-03-24 at 16:39 +0100, Tamer Higazi wrote:
>> Steve,
>> Nobody really wants to write a book about pyramid.... If you would say
>> "Zope", then I understand.
> 
> ?

I code all the time with Python and Pyramid, and I didn't find yet the
documentation of bluebream really helpful, decribing the application
server and it's modules in detail.

the pyramid docs in comparison are 10x better and very great, and cover
the framework really in detail with good samples all the time. Or, do
you doubt that this is not true.



> 
>> But honestly, the pyramid documentation is really written very good, the
>> same as the django docs, that I don't see any reason to write one.
>>
>> Or do you have any idea to add anything in the book that is not
>> mentioned in the docs (guide) ?!
> 
> The existing docs are mostly written for an audience of people who
> already know Python and web stuff.  There's plenty of room for books
> that don't make these assumptions.  There's also plenty of room for
> books that go into more depth about particular integrations of Pyramid
> and other systems (e.g. SQLA, whatever).
> 
I mean, reading a pyramid book, without knowing the basics of python
doesn't make sense at all, no ?!


Extending the documentation explaining the basics about POST, GET and
it's protocols is only a chapter to extend.


If you tell me, that you want the whole picture then start with HTML,
CSS and OOP Javascript and then jump to pyramid.

Putting this in ONE and ONLY book, take you away from the scope. Then
it's no more a pyramid book, then a 3-subject book, which is nonsense.


APress has very good books you'll find everything you need.


> - C
> 

Tamer

> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 23.03.2013 11:14, schrieb Steve Piercy:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> While at PyCon, an editor, Rachel Roumeliotis, from O'Reilly Media
>>> informed @mcdonc that they would like to publish books about Pyramid. 
>>> At this point we don't have a lot of information about the potential
>>> arrangement or what the books would cover.  Discussion amongst Pyramid
>>> folks about the matter is on GitHub.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Pylons/pyramid/issues/807
>>>
>>> I am collecting discussion points and questions for Rachel.  Here's what
>>> I have so far.
>>>
>>> * What kind of book about Pyramid do you think would be successful?
>>> * We want the IP of Pyramid to remain the property of Agendless/"The
>>> Foundation" (for lack of a better term).
>>> * What level of control over the content would O'Reilly want?
>>> * What level of ownership of the content would O'Reilly want?
>>> * What kind of guidance would O'Reilly provide to the author(s)?
>>> Editorial? Publishing?
>>>
>>> Please reply with any comments.
>>>
>>> In the next week I'll ask Rachel to schedule a Google meetup (or
>>> whatever) so that anyone who has an interest in books about Pyramid can
>>> participate while respecting her time.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> --steve
>>>
>>> --steve
>>>
>>
> 
> 

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