Am 25.03.2013 16:09, schrieb Jonathan Vanasco:
> 1. I'd agree that the current docs are great. I wonder what a book
> would be.
> 
> 2.  fwiw, friends who have written/edited tech books have said this:
> 
> you basically get paid nearly nothing / a vanity fee for your book.
> it works out to less than minimum wage.

Education never pays out, more or less entertainment industry does.
Become a horror novel writer on the same quality like "Steven King"
does, and you become famous.


> 
> the terms get better as you work with a publisher more.  once you do a
> few books, it becomes worth it.

do you think you'll kick out some 100k $/€ ?????

> 
> 
> 3. it's too hard to say this delicately, so i'm going to send the
> blunt statements to address Mike's points about Django docs to him
> personally.   publicly... i think the bulk of django users I've met
> would largely be scared of pyramid and not care for it.  and that is
> simply because they program in "Django" not "Python".


I did long time ago in django... why they are scared and for what, I
really don't know.

Most coders always believe that if they find something that makes them
really satisfied, it should and must be the best of the best.

It doesn't get into their minds, that there are other frameworks or even
application servers that would serve them well or even better in their
projects they are coding at.


   it's a similar
> phenomena to how many people program in "Rails" and not "Ruby".  The
> full-service frameworks have attracted a following of people who pick
> up the frameworks but not the language -- and the level of behind-the-
> scenes magic + coding style keep people from really using the actual
> language. 


This is because they make simple web stuff, like templating. At the
moment you create RIA applications, or something that has to play deep
with JSON and object databases, then the thing gets really difficult.



 coding in many of these frameworks is more like configuring
> an XML file than writing a program.
> 

just when they make simple stuff.... however, as I said, when the jobs
are getting really difficult, and complicated, then the games over.


for example:

- server side image manipulation
- extensive play of javascript frontend with python backend
- RIA application coding, where javascript sends a request, and the
dataset serverside has to be prepared for the client properly for
further presentations






Tamer

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