Steve Dower wrote:
> On 30Oct2019 1226, Brett Cannon wrote:
> > 
> > Now that the stable ABI has been cleaned, extension modules should feel more
> > comfortable targeting the stable ABI which should make supporting newer 
> > versions of Python
> > much easier
> > 
> > I'm taking this as an indication that we should finish 
> https://bugs.python.org/issue23903 to
> actually clean the stable ABI and 
> make it usable on Windows.

I would, but then I would have wanted the stable ABI to be clean and work on 
Windows regardless. :)

> Specifically:
> 
> existing APIs that accidentally shipped in the stable ABI have to 
> remain in the stable ABI if they are currently listed in python3.def
> _all_ current stable ABI APIs according to the header files will be 
> added to python3.def, whether they were intended to be stable or not 
> (with a grace period of however long it takes us to finish issue23903)
> in future, the file will be either auto-generated or validated against 
> the actual headers, to ensure it doesn't get out of sync again
> 
> Hopefully this won't be as upsetting to people as last time we tried to 
> fix it, but if anyone still has concerns about the stable ABI not being 
> properly clean, you need to speak up :)
> Also, PEP 602 makes no statement about when stable ABI APIs are 
> "committed", and nor does PEP 384, so should we assume that the stable 
> ABI becomes fixed at beta 1 (or RC 1)? That is, it is not allowed to 
> remove or change any stable ABI APIs from beta/RC 1, even if they 
> weren't in the previous release? Or will we hold it until the final 
> release and allow breaking the stable ABI during prereleases.

Don't know. That's probably a discussion to have and decide where the results 
of that discusion should be specified (PEP 384, 387, or 602).
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