On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Tony Firshman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Plastic wrote, on 14/Feb/11 20:50 | Feb14:
>
>  On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Tony Firshman<[email protected]>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 14 Feb 2011, at 20:01, Plastic<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the CR2032 man enough though?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The CR2032 is 3V 235ma, and on this card would need to be replaced
>>>>>>
>>>>> every
>>>
>>>> three years or so, which would be a simple "pop a new one in"
>>>>>>
>>>>> operation...
>>>
>>>> The 40LF220 had a lower current capacity but was designed for a long
>>>>>> shelf
>>>>>> life of ten years, hence the bulk. So yes, the CR2032 truly fits this
>>>>>> application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The format is standard for battery backed clocks on PCs, but was quite
>>>>>>
>>>>> new
>>>
>>>> in the late 80s.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will look at current costs for getting a batch of 100 of these tiny,
>>>>>> single layer PCBs made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Couldn't the card have a battery socket so that only the battery need
>>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>
>>>> replaced?
>>>>>
>>>>> ( ... and why are you not yet living Texas time - it is 2am (8-)#   )
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is exactly what I was describing ;) A simple adaptor card to a
>>>>
>>> CR2032
>>>
>>>> socket, and a CR2032 battery.
>>>>
>>> Ah sorry.
>>> 3 years though seems a mite short. I wonder if there is a more beefier
>>> battery that is thin enough - or maybe a chargeable one?
>>>
>>>
>> There is, but it has 50% higher capacity and costs $12 instead of $0.99 at
>> the supermarket. I said three years as a minimum. It's quite possible that
>> it would last 5-6-7 years - I'm just being very conservative. Also, the
>> CR2032socket in bulk is under $1, but the socket for the CR2045 is $7.80
>> in
>> bulk.
>>
>> I think people will happily pay $15-20 for a 3-5 year battery change at
>> 99p
>> than pay $25-$30 for an extra couple of years. Also, changing the CR2032
>> batteries is so easy... 15 seconds, including removing and re-inserting
>> the
>> card.
>>
>>  Yes - in that case the 2032 makes sense.
> It is a pity the PC has stadardised now on the low capacity
> non-rechargeable.  In the old days they used a Minerva like NiCad pack that
> lasted for yonks.
>
> Tony
>

Well no, it makes perfect sense. The Gold Card was designed with the
expectation that it would still be in use in ten years.

Can a typical new PC expect to outlast the battery?

Dave
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