Robin S. Socha([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.08.30 09:15:03 +0000:
> * Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Olivier M. wrote:
>
> >> http://www.sigmasoft.com/~openbsd/archive/openbsd-ports/200108/msg00462.html
>
> > Basically, [the port maintainers] are too stubborn to create a port
> > that installs according to djb's instructions, with a big fat warning
> > or *whatever*. I think it's stupid, but that's just my two eurocents.
>
> It's not just stupid, it's entirely brain damaged, because a port (unlike
> a package) does not fall under DJB's redistribution restrictions (the
> Debian .deb uses the same mechanism AFAIK). Whatever.
i wonder what is wrong with
#!/bin/sh
cd
mkdir djbsrc
cd djbsrc
fetch ftp://koobera.math.uic.edu/www/software/qmail-1.03.tar.gz
tar xzf qmail-1.03.tar.gz
cd qmail-1.03
less INSTALL
cat << EOF
###
### please read the other INSTALL.* files in the source dir
### set up the correct users, then press return
###
EOF
make setup check
cat << EOF
###
### thanks, now consider installing daemontools and ucspi-tcp for
### an optimal execution environment
###
EOF
well, if you gotta throw this into a Makefile to be perfectly content
_and_ patch the source to install into different paths, then you're
hosed anyway -- depending on the number of systems you administer.
IMVHO, qmail belongs into /var/qmail -- and that's where it is on all
the machines i log on to. no matter if it's *BSD/Slowlaris/HP-UX/AIX or
whateverIX[tm]... dan's policy just reduces TCO in a very simple manner,
just as a side effect of his way of installing things.
if the people don't understand that fact, it's their personal problem.
>
> > There is nothing wrong with djb's licensing.
>
> There isn't, indeed. There is, however, something fundamentally flawed
> with Theo's perception of reality, and I'm this ->|<- close to dropping
> OpenBSD in favour of $SECURE_OTHER_UNIX on my servers. The ipf incident
> was sad but somehow justifiable. This is justifiable but stupid. *grrr*
the recent drop of ipfilter is in no way 'justifiable'. it means: one
more stupid packetfilter to deal with, to learn, to debug ;-)
speaking for myself i don't want to deal with a myriad of ruleset
languages or use rather buggy meta definition languages or filter
creation tools.
SECURE_OTHER_UNIX=FreeBSD-RELENG_4
export SECURE_OTHER_UNIX
cheers,
/k
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