I wrote a help guide for our students, happy to share. How do I get it to
you, am I permitted to attach files to messages sent to this group?

Cheers
David Ô¿Ô¬


On 19 February 2010 08:09, Jonathan Klupp
<[email protected]>wrote:

>  David makes a good point. At least as I use DIA,  it’s a manual process.
>  Happy to be guided here.
>
>
>
> I’ll confess I never quite got on top of using Visio to create a CS diagram
> directly from elementary sentences.  If anyone has a short “how to” I would
> love to try it again.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David Fenton
> *Sent:* Friday, 19 February 2010 7:59 AM
> *To:* QSITE ICT Teachers
> *Subject:* Re: [qsiteict] VisioModeler
>
>
>
> G'day Jonathan,
>
>
>
> When you say you use DIA for CSD work, do you mean you use it for ORM with
> entity object and value objects etc to create a full conceptual schema? Do
> the students manually create every object and role on the diagram and join
> the roles and put the role descriptions in the boxes...?
>
>
>
> If so, then this is why I like the 'decrepit' VisioModeler - it is the
> best software around for creating a CS diagram *directly from fact
> sentences* AND mapping the CS straight to a data dictionary. All of its
> functionality has been ported to Visio, but somehow only the
> Enterprise Architect version. They've left us educators out in the cold with
> the now unsupported VisioModeler.
>
>
>
> If DIA requires the creation of the diagrams by hand, then I may as well
> use the diagramming functions in MS Word 2007.
>
>
>
> I have downloaded DIA and will have a closer look at it.
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the tips.
>
> Cheers
> David Ô¿Ô¬
> International Education Services
>
>
>
> On 18 February 2010 22:50, Jonathan Klupp <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I use DIA a lot for 11 and 12 IPT in our CSD work. It is very simple to use
> (students are producing real work quickly) , and it actually works as a full
> function program for free.
>
> I haven't had as much luck using it for NS diagrams. Has anyone used DIA
> for NS diagrams (algorthim work). Is there a template that works that people
> know of?
>
> As an aside, for NS drawing,  I have found that NSD Editor (NSD.EXE) is a
> BRILLIANT start, but the version I have (at least) will not do CASE
> statements for example, so its use is limited.  Anyone know how to work
> around this?
>
>
> Jonathan Klupp
> Faith Lutheran College, Redlands
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