Darren, I don't suppose you know of any way to tighten security under Virtual XP so that I can talk to my Network Manager again to get it VisioModeler working across our LAN under V-XP?
He tried it, but discovered security concerns and basically shut me down and said - 'Oh well - you'll have to find some alternative' - Not what I wanted to hear. Cheers David Ô¿Ô¬ On 19 February 2010 15:30, Darren White <[email protected]>wrote: > I would double that 2c to make 4c and continue to run XP under virtual pc > to get access to Visiomodeller. > > IPT would not be the same without it. > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Darren White > > > > Head of Information Technology > > Kings Christian College > > Ph:07 5587 7610 > > Fax: 07 5587 7696 > > [email protected] > > www.kingscollege.qld.edu.au > > > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul Herring > *Sent:* Friday, 19 February 2010 3:10 PM > *To:* QSITE ICT Teachers > *Subject:* RE: [qsiteict] VisioModeler > > > > > > My 2c worth: > > > > I have found nothing that comes close to Visiomodeller in its ability to > create CSD’s from the elementary fact sentences including nested fact types. > > > > It also encourages the use of population checks which for ORM are the real > secret to success. > > > > The issue now though is getting it to function under Windows 7. > > > > While ORM may not be ‘industry standard’ (many still use ER), I believe it > is an excellent design tool at this stage of the development of students > considering Information Systems as a career. I believe it is worth keeping. > > > > Cheers, > > Paul > > > > [image: cid:[email protected]]* * > > * * > > *Paul Herring* > > M.Sc (Physics)., B.Sc., Dip. Tchg., MACS (PCP), Cert IV (TAA40104) > > > > St Peters Lutheran College > > PO Box 111 > > 66 Harts Road > > Indooroopilly QLD 4068 > > Ph: *07 3377 6547 (Direct)* > > Email: *[email protected]* ** > > Web: *www.stpeters.qld.edu.au* > > > > Lutheran Church of Australia trading as St Peters Lutheran College. CRICOS > Provider: * 00516E* > > This message may include Commercial-in-Confidence material. The message > and any attachments are intended for the named recipients and should not be > copied, reproduced or forwarded to another party without prior approval of > the author. The views expressed by the author may not represent the views of > The Lutheran Church of Australia or St Peters Lutheran College. If this > message has been received in error, please notify the author and delete the > e-mail immediately. Thank You. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *David Fenton > *Sent:* Friday, 19 February 2010 7:59 AM > *To:* QSITE ICT Teachers > *Subject:* Re: [qsiteict] VisioModeler > > > > G'day Jonathan, > > > > When you say you use DIA for CSD work, do you mean you use it for ORM with > entity object and value objects etc to create a full conceptual schema? Do > the students manually create every object and role on the diagram and join > the roles and put the role descriptions in the boxes...? > > > > If so, then this is why I like the 'decrepit' VisioModeler - it is the > best software around for creating a CS diagram *directly from fact > sentences* AND mapping the CS straight to a data dictionary. All of its > functionality has been ported to Visio, but somehow only the > Enterprise Architect version. They've left us educators out in the cold with > the now unsupported VisioModeler. > > > > If DIA requires the creation of the diagrams by hand, then I may as well > use the diagramming functions in MS Word 2007. > > > > I have downloaded DIA and will have a closer look at it. > > > > Thanks for all the tips. > > Cheers > David Ô¿Ô¬ > International Education Services > > > > On 18 February 2010 22:50, Jonathan Klupp <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > I use DIA a lot for 11 and 12 IPT in our CSD work. It is very simple to use > (students are producing real work quickly) , and it actually works as a full > function program for free. > > I haven't had as much luck using it for NS diagrams. Has anyone used DIA > for NS diagrams (algorthim work). Is there a template that works that people > know of? > > As an aside, for NS drawing, I have found that NSD Editor (NSD.EXE) is a > BRILLIANT start, but the version I have (at least) will not do CASE > statements for example, so its use is limited. 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