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I didn't say there was a promise with Embryonic Stem Cells I said adult stem cells had less promise.
And you're right why divert Federal money into research that has fewer lines to work with which means is more limited?
Is there any way to talk about Stem cells without the Kerry BS.
I'm not voting for Kerry!
Mark
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Date: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:00:16 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction to: Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards
You do understand that there is "NO PROMISE" other than the empty one
made by Kerry regarding embryonic stem cells.
There is "hope", and we can all use hope. But it is unethical to
promote false hopes by claiming that a cure is within our grasp and
that somehow we are being denied a cure by a political hack.
Like I tried to clarify, if you have X amount of dollars to fund
research, and adult stem cell research is showing better results with
fewer problems (at this time). Why divert the "Federal" grant money,
dividing X into percentages, instead of forging ahead untill somebody
in the world finds a real promise for embryonic stem cells? The answer
may be the adult stem cells, (we don't know how far we can go with it
yet) and diverting a percentage of the X might delay a big break
through using adult stem cells.
I wonder how much "private" money is really being used on embryonic
stem cell research? Wouldn't Jerry Lewis's foundation be funding it?
Isn't "privately" funded research usualy better?
Stuntman
>
>
> Maybe fewer problems at this time Stunman but less promise.
> Forget about Kerry this subject has been an issue since Bush road
blocked it
>
> This isn't a Kerry issue for me it's about research and nothing less.
> There's nothing logical about not using something for research that's
> heading for the "trash" can!
> You can't deny what scientist are talking about.
>
> Mark
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Stuntman
> Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:51:46 PM
> To: QuadPirate; Stuntman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic .... Reaction
to:
> Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards
>
> There are many problems with embryonic stem cells including tumors
and
> cellular rejection that are no problem when using ones own adult stem
> cells. Therefore the justification for spending money on research for
> the one with more known problems instead of the one with fewer
problems
> has a logic problem behind it.
> This is above and beyond the ethics involved.
> Kerry is using this as a campaign issue even though it shouldn't be.
> He is promising the moon.
> Doesn't mean a thing.
> Stuntman
>
> >
> >
> > Stuntman Bush has banned Federal money on The majority of stem
cells
> I never
> > said there was a ban on research.
> > My problem is his way of thinking.
> > For example, did you know more embryos are lost by a natural
> pregnancy than
> > in vitro fertilization?
> > In vitro fertilization has a better success rate than natural
> conception so
> > should we ban natural conception because it's killing more embryos
> than ivf?
> >
> > This position he has is not scientific it's personal so I think I
> would let
> > the scientist be the judge instead of Bush and that's not Junk
> science that
> > s responsible science.
> >
> > I could care less what Kerry thinks about this subject this is my
> opinion
> > and I'm not voting for Kerry btw.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Stuntman
> > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:53:31 PM
> > To: QuadPirate; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Political Garbage, & False Logic ....
Reaction
> to:
> > Communist Party Endorsement Kerry/Edwards
> >
> > There is no ban on embryonic stem research.
> > There is no scientific proof at this time that it works better than
> > adult stem cells.
> > Do you want real science funded or "junk science".
> > KERRY IS LYING!
> >
>
> .
>
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