I  think the excess eggs should be served at communion. Like the caviar of 
Christ or something. Maybe add a caudacill from Mary 
 
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So what do you do with the thousands of excess fertilized eggs that result from 
in vitro fertilization? Store them forever? Ban the process? These excess eggs 
are thrown into the garbage everyday yet I don't hear anyone complaining. So 
what's your answer.

Dan 


At 07:50 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my response:
  

Glad to see you partly agree with me Dan. (yes I realize you were being 
sarcastic) I don't agree with the part about having elaborate funerals and 
burying them, but yes we must not destroy unused fertilized eggs created for 
IVF treatments.

Using unused embryos is not the same as organ donation because organ donor are 
dead before organs are harvested. Removing stem cells from an embryo kills the 
embryo. 

I've listened to Dr Kerr from Johns Hopkins talk a few times about his 
research. http://www.hopkinsneuro.org/tm/
watch his presentation at the 2006 symposium here 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2767307331641285489&hl=en 
he mentioned that they want to use the embryos created for IVF that are 
deformed (something to that effect) and can not be used for in-vitro treatment. 
Now I can go along with using those that could not be used to result in a 
pregnancy. 

I agree with S. 30: A bill to intensify research to derive human pluripotent 
stem cell lines


At 06:35 PM 4/7/2007, Dan wrote:

Yes, yes, yes! We must not destroy all those useless fertilized eggs. We should 
let them perish on their own and then we should have an elaborate funeral and 
bury them in a tiny little plot of earth. AND we must not allow abortion at ANY 
cost. Thank you Jesus! Hallelujah! 

Dan, who always gives great credence to anything authored by a reverend. 

At 06:15 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my response:
  





SIX STEM CELL FACTS



There are non-controversial alternatives worth exploring; such as the 
reprogramming of ordinary somatic (body) cells, the derivation of stem cells 
from amniotic fluid, and (assuming that it can be shown that the product is not 
an embryo), altered nuclear transfer. 
Concerns about embryo destruction are not only religious; but merely a healthy 
respect for the human capacity for doing evil in pursuit of the good. 
The search for cures is not the only motive behind ESC research,; many 
scientists are interested only in enhancing basic scientific knowledge of such 
things as cell signaling, tissue growth and early human development. 



Source: Robert P. George and Thomas V. Berg, "Six Stem Cell Facts," Wall Street 
Journal, March 14, 2007.

For text:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117384191108736444.html 
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