My wife of 38 years now sleeps in a separate room. Between snoring, windows 
 open, TV on all night, we decided we'd both be happier in our own space.   
Yes, the intimacy part of our union is pretty much in the past, but when we 
had  it, it was good.   Now it's more of a struggle just to survive over  
gravity, UTI's and food overdoses.  The grand kids still brighten our days  
and some Scotch and sleeping pills are handy tools after dinner.  I also  
taught school for about 4 years - I enjoyed the kids a lot - they are so  
inquisitive.  :)
AZDAVE
 
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Dave O'Connell  

 
In a message dated 11/24/2011 3:50:37 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

I have been married since 1990, have two kids, and retired last  year after 
31 years of teaching high school English. I am c5 from a diving  accident 
in 1971 at age 19. Until about 6 or 7 years ago my sex drive was  relatively 
normal (for a quad). Since then   
it seems like my libido has just died. I mean desire, virility, ability  -- 
the whole package has just gone down the drain. Needless to say it is very  
depressing and has just been a disaster for my beloved wife. She is more my 
 nurse than my wife. I don't know if it is my medicine, my age,
my decreasing vitality, or my mental state. I love my wife dearly, and  the 
whole situation has just about thrown me down a black hole. Anyone else  
had this experience?

 
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 Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:57:59 -0500
To: [email protected]
From:  [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Intimacy


great story  Dave!  I wish I had one like it but alas no such luck.  The 
closest  I ever came to a relationship was the occasional hand job and a few 
girls that  were not ashamed to show their naked bodies.  From talking to my 
quad  friends, that's about all we ever got.  To me this is very sad but we  
were never in the right place at the right time.

I once hired a  stripper and I was amazed at her comfort level with me.  
Strangely, I was  not aroused by her performance but rather had an admiration 
of her genuine  sincerity.  The fact that she was so comfortable being alone 
with me gave  me a feeling of being -- finally -- an adult.  An adult male 
something I  really didn't have until that point.  After she left, I felt  
liberated.  I know it might sound strange but from that point on I had a  
great deal more confidence and self assurance.Maybe someday before I die I  
will have an experience akin to yours Dave.


At 01:26 PM 11/24/2011,  [email protected] said something that elicited 
my response:


I was injured at  19 - c3 incomplete, and have nearly normal touch 
sensations - hot and cold  not so much.   I was in a rehab ward with 6 other 
sci's 
all under  21 - 1 of whom had a sister in nursing school who would visit 
often.   we told her to bring 6 friends next time and she did.  they made our 6 
 
month rehab much more bearable.  Also..... my p.t. was a 28 year old  
female who was very nice to all of us guys.  1 time she took me and 1  other 
(para) and his date to the drive in.  Afterwards, she suggested  we all spend 
the night at her trailer.  Rick took the couch and she  dragged me down the 
hall and into her bed. (I was much lighter then.)   We spent the night 
determining just what worked and how well it did.   by morning she said, "I'm 
taking you back - you're killing me."  it was  wonderful to know all was not 
'broken'.  Since then - 1967 - I got  married to a h.s. sweetheart, had 3 kids 
the old fashioned way, taught  school, and had a 25 year career with 
Honeywell as a programmer.  now  my job is in India and I fool around on the PC 
all 
day trying to remember  which happy hour is on which day, and getting a 
bigger quad belly every  year.   
I wish everyone here a very blessed Thanks Giving and  happy holidays with 
good friends and  family.
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What some  call health, if purchased by perpetual anxiety about diet, isn't 
much better  than tedious disease.  
(http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/George_Dennison_Prentice/) George 
Dennison  Prentice
_Daveoconnell.com_ (http://daveoconnell.com/) 

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In a  message dated 11/21/2011 1:28:38 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:

I raised the sex question  because when we discussed turning and 
positioning in bed the thought  occurred to me that everyone does things 
differently, 
and we can learn so  much from each other.  I assume the same holds true for 
intimacy, and  I know we're always open to information and suggestions.   :)



My interest in the  subject is part personal curiousity and part 
professional interest as I do  quite a bit of mentoring in my job.



I have a million questions,  but the first, and most basic, are:  how has 
SCI affected your  intimate relationships?  Do you have a sex life?  Do you 
[and  your partner] find it fulfilling?  How does your current lovelife  
compare with before your injury?



[Keep in mind that your  replies may be searchable through Google in the 
future, so don't write  anything you'd be embarrassed to have searched.]



I will answer my own questions  to get the ball rolling:  



I was injured at age 18 and  had not been sexually active before my injury. 
 I realized quickly  after my injury [c5-6 complete] that I could get a 
physiogenic erection  [from touch] but not a psychogenic erection [from 
thought.]  I had  very reduced sensation in that area but the sensation I have 
is 
very  nice.  It took me many years post-injury to trust someone enough to  
get to the point of intimacy, but during college one of my female  caregivers 
slipped into bed with me one night, removed my catheter and  changed my 
life.  I never guessed that with my reduced sensation I  could climax, but I 
did.  Not only that, but even with her doing all  the 'work' I found that I 
could please my partner.  From that moment  on I felt I had regained a certain 
manliness that I thought was gone  forever.



I can't compare sex before and  after SCI, but over the years I can say 
I've had very fulfilling intimate  relationships.  



Don. 







Honest criticism is hard to take, particularly from a relative, a  friend, 
an acquaintance or a stranger.
- Franklin Jones  



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