Hi Eric,I'm so glad that you brought up this topic..  I always wondered if 
everyone in the group had trouble sleeping?  I think it's hard for us to relax, 
unless we are exhausted.  I don't think we use enough energy to burn calories 
or possibly need as much sleep.  I think a lot of us have difficult life 
situation.  I have had problems sleeping Since my initial injury.  I have to 
physically see my sleep doctor every year and have video chats in between. She 
says are another other medications, but I have not wanted to change because 
I've changed so many times throughout my life and most of them did not work.  
It helps me to listen to audible.I know this sounds crazy but I got a sleep 
mask from my doctor, when I had a sty.  My caregiver warms it up in a microwave 
and it really allows me to sleep.  I recently tried some lidocaine patches, and 
it helps with my shoulder pain. I also use bio freeze.  It's like referred 
pain.  I can't feel to touch, but there is pain that is sharp.  Dana C 4-5 
complete, 50 years post.

    On Saturday, March 1, 2025 at 06:38:39 PM CST, Eric Olson 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 I am really glad I brought this up.  I thought I was the only one that slept 
as poorly.  You all make me feel normal. Thanks 
On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 12:26 PM Eric Olson <[email protected]> wrote:

I don't think I get that much sleep. Part of my problem is I start my every 
other day bowel program at 3am. I should start it later around 5am,but I worry 
about things continuing into day shift. Truthfully I don't think that 2 hours 
would make any difference. I feel like a 3rd shift worker that can't sleep at 
night on the weekends because his body is used to being up at night.  After 
doing some more research on what Edward Said, it looks like I am going to have 
dementia with or without ambien
On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 11:20 AM Jim Lubin <[email protected]> wrote:

I probably get about 3 hours of broken sleep each night. 
On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 3:18 PM Eric Olson <[email protected]> wrote:

Do you have trouble sleeping?  I can't sleep for sh#t even when I take 
ambien and melatonin.  The obvious problem of not being able to toss and 
turn to get comfortable is something we all share. The big problem for 
me is that I can't shut my mind off.  I can't help but worry about 
everything and nothing.  Even if I am not worried about something, I 
can't just clear my mind.  How about all of you?  Any tips from a quad 
perspective?  I have read every article about sleeping well.



  

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