On 12 Jan 2017, at 18:40, Paul Jakma wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017, Martin Winter wrote:
I can direct you to a tax person who can explain you who needs o be
listed or not.
The money out covers only your salary and my contracting.
And your point? This is a IRS tax document with weird requirements on
what to list or not. I
can’t make up things or report different for you. I have to follow the
IRS guidelines (and
we use professional help for this, because it’s weird for me too)
You could have read my other email. OpenSourceRouting is a project by
NetDEF. Nothing else. Not another company and you should know this.
I have no idea anymore what you are.
I’m a person who wants a good high-quality open source routing stack
and works full-time on it.
I ask again: Are you and/or Alistair and/or David officers, employees
or contractors for any other companies, or have been over last few
years?
And I ask again, what has this to do with a simple request to give a
quick announcement on changes
of a security list?
Action should all what matters.
I just asked for transparency to mention who got removed from the
security list. I didn’t question the reasons. I just wanted to be
the community aware of the changes. Very simple requests. That’s
what I call transparency in the community.
Again, you have your fork. Why not go enjoy it?!
I'm happy to continue to talk to you about technical stuff on a
constructive basis.
However, if you come here making insinuations, and continue to try
stir up trouble in Quagga, as you've been doing for a long while then
you won't get a warm welcome. I may have been a very naïve idiot in
the past (and have made other mistakes, no doubt) about things, but I
can learn.
So, again: Go enjoy your fork! If we have to fight, let's do it by
competing on the code.
But note very carefully: I'm no longer as naïve. I've learned, and I
will be keeping one ready in the chamber from now on, in case you come
back with more games.
Read me clear: Go enjoy your fork.
BTW, when I started contracting for NetDEF, I was told Alistair was
seed
funding it. What was the amount of that seed funding, and how much
other
sponsorship came in and when?
Look up the public records if you care about this. It’s all in
there.
I note that's a non-answer.
It’s NOT relevant for this discussion and you are just side-tracking
the whole discussion.
I let this stand like this and suggest to everyone read the archives
of the list.
I note that I David has the off-list email, and I bet you do too.
OpenSourceRouting is a PROJECT of NetDEF. What part is not clear
here? It’s not a company, it’s just a single project.
Again, the question was: What _other_ companies do you have?
None. Zero. Nada. Happy now? Can we get back to the main subject?
By forking, we accepted Quagga to be your project and we all accepted
your
wish on not changing the structure.
I’m accepting your wish to withdraw from Quagga testing as well if
this is
really is your wish.
- Martin
The rest on this email is really pointless for me to even respond.
Feel free to hate me (and NetDEF and everyone else who works on the
fork).
Again, I didn’t come for a fight, just for a clarification.
I only asked for transparency. I didn’t want to fight. You seem to
be interested in it.
Did I go to your project and start trolling with insinuations about
transparency? No.
Hey, you havn't even got a public forum AFAIK. Where's my slack
invite?
I’ve asked on details of the changes to made public by someone who
knows (i.e. you, maybe others), so the community is aware who is
still working on security issues.
Wah wah wah.
Go enjoy your fork Martin. Why are you even here?
That’s all. I mentioned that this wasn’t about me and there is no
need to argue how I had to be kicked out because I work for such an
evil non-profit and dare to work on more than one open source
project.
I have 0 problems with:
1. For profits working on software.
2. Non-profits working on software, free or other wise.
3. Special status, tax-exempt non-profits working on free software.
4. People being sponsored or employed to work on software.
It's a free world, and that's how I like it, esp. for categories 1 and
2. Category 3 is special though.
My question here is:
- You and David have involved yourself in Quagga under the mantle of
'3', but have you got significant other business interests under
some
category that you've not disclosed to the community?
If you won't answer that "transparently" (the word of the week), then
my strong advice to you, again, is:
Go and enjoy your code, and stop messing around here!
You could have just responded that you made the decision to clean up
the list because you felt that this and this and this person was no
longer useful or wanted. This would have been helpful for the
community (The Quagga Community which I still care about a lot)
Wah wah wah.
How many companies are you an officer of? What is their status and
purpose? Over the relevant period...
You're not going to answer that, so... Enjoy your fork! Happy to talk
tech. Quagga governance is no longer your concern - and hasn't been
for 6 months at least.
regards,
--
Paul Jakma | [email protected] | @pjakma | Key ID: 0xD86BF79464A2FF6A
Fortune:
Mandrell: "You know what I think?"
Doctor: "Ah, ah that's a catch question. With a brain your size you
don't think, right?"
-- Dr. Who
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