i agree with Jim the 2+2 does seem to be the better bet if you can seal out the leaks, and the sub frame should be viewed as a removable item for future corrosion repairs, the H4 seems pretty bonkers in the respect of the construction yet very clever at the same time, the problem being the close proximity of the fibreglass to the steel, you can just slosh waxoyl about like you would with a tin car, shame the 2 halves cant be separated more readily
On Jul 18, 2:14 pm, "Jim Hearne" <[email protected]> wrote: > That was the reason i bought a 2+2, i was feed up with my metal cars going > rusty. > The 2+2 is fairly IMO safe as long as you sort out the pockets behind the > door hinges which can leak water into the sill area. > And don’t have any leaks around the petrol filler pipe either on the outside > or under that car. > The only bit that can rust is the subframe which can be removed, sandblasted > and galvanised if you wish. > > The H4 is a different question because of the way the chassis rails come > through the body in various places. > The paint comes off the chassis with the fibreglass and the water gets to the > bare steel. > > I asked original Quantum about separating the floor and body from the chassis > and they told me not to even attempt it. > The chassis bonded into the body halves in the moulds and without the mould > to keep things straight it will distort all over the place. > This wasn’t going to stop me trying it (with suitable jigging) but an > unfinished kit turned up with no rust as it had always been garaged. > I may well dissect the other H4 body from chassis just to see how it all goes > together as i’ve still got to do some extensive chassis mods to fit the 4 > wheel drive and the Mk5 Fiesta dash and aircon system. > > I will be powder coating everything i can remove (i know there are people on > here who are against powder coating) and probably use rubber flat roofing > compound to paint the chassis i can’t remove. > > Jim > > From: The Blue Pig > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: H4 RUST > > Hi, All, > > This is an interesting and rather concerning thread! > > One of my motivations for going Quantum was the fabled banishment from > critical areas of the insatiable tin worm, yet now it seems that the little > bugger finds his way in anyway. Worse still, once in his activities are > pretty much hidden from sight save the evidence of a little judicious > prodding through the drainage holes. > > I'm tempted to err on the side of caution and apply sensible amounts of > anti-rust primer, followed by a flexible gloss paint (an approach recommended > by Spartan years ago for their Trekka chassis, with the use of "Hammerite" > discouraged for just the reasons described in this thread). > > However, I've not got a clue as to how to get at the chassis rails, as > they're sandwiched away. What approaches have people used here? Can the floor > be unbonded for access then re-bonded? That sounds like it'd be a big job . . > . > > Cheers! > > Steve. > > On Tuesday, 17 July 2012 17:47:06 UTC+1, Jim T wrote: > > Hi. I've started a new post because the existing one was getting cluttered. > On my H4 I noticed that there was surface rust on the rear chassis in the > engine bay. Lots of Kurust, Hammerite rust killer primer & Hammerite smooth > cured that. ( the front chassis is covered with a fine coating of oil so no > rust there!). > The chassis rails in the wet area seem sound, (tested with my mk 1 pointed > scewdriver ) but the coating is suspect. My usual response would be to spray > the cavity with Waxoil but have been told that this is not compatible with > fiberglass. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Plan B would be to use old > engine oil, taking precautions to collect & dispose of the excess.Cheaper but > effective, as used on older cars to prevent rust in the distant past. > JimT > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" > basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. 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