Thanks for the info Jim. Sounds like V belt drive is worthy exploring. What 
did you do for crankshaft pulley?
John


On Friday, 8 May 2020 10:23:50 UTC+1, Jim Hearne wrote:
>
> I would think the 1mm clearance on the gearbox end is because the engine 
> and gearbox has been moved across that way to give enough clearance on the 
> crank pulleys and belts.
> The Zetec cylinder blocks are the same width as the CVH, it's just them 
> having flat belts for the auxiliarys instead of V belts that causes the 
> clearance issues.
> In the 2+2 you can modify the steel frame rails, the saloon isn't so easy.
>
> With the silver top Zetec in my saloon i converted the alternator to V 
> belts and replaced the water pump with an electric one.
> That let me keep the engine and gearbox in the same place as a CVH
>
> The ST170 6 speed gearbox is actually narrower then the BC/IB5 so it would 
> let you move the engine/gearbox across to the gearbox side.
> But, it uses unique driveshaft joints on the inner end so you would need 
> to get custom shafts made.
> It is also hydraulic clutch and cable gearchange so a lot of work.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On 07/05/2020 20:34, 'JR' via Quantum Owners Group wrote:
>
> 1mm clearance sounds super tight! - you must have some really good engine 
> mounts to stop that hitting. Do you have a 6 speed box or BC/IB5? Front or 
> rear starter motor? On my cvh + BC 5 spd there is better clearance than 1mm 
> on gearbox end. Maybe fiitting a zetec blacktop needs the whole of the 
> power unit moving slightly towards nearside to make it fit? 
> With regards induction I will be using a cvh efi./turbo up and over alloy 
> inlet manifold with some adapter plates (single throttle body) - this 
> should make it easier to move to turbo later once the basic conversion has 
> been sorted. Had a re-read of nickp;s thread - thanks for reminder.
> John
>  
>
> On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 10:37:53 AM UTC+1, russ price wrote: 
>>
>>  In that case it is the same size as the ST engine fitted in mine. I 
>> didn't do the conversion but i had to change the engine so have some idea 
>> of how it's done. The clearance at the crankpulley end is quite tight but 
>> it is possible without cutting anything, clearance at the gearbox end is 
>> even worse 1mm only. I'll take and post some pics later, The exhaust has 
>> had some work done to squeeze it in. The biggest problem however is on the 
>> induction side i don't see how it would be possible to use the original 
>> system, mine is running on bike carbs and that still a bit of a squeeze. 
>> Engine mounts need to be pretty firm and a head steady is a good idea.  
>> Just realised the topic started by the chap who did the conversion is still 
>> on proboards forum take a look at ST170 Saloon posted by nickp.
>> Russ 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 3:41:57 PM UTC+1, JR wrote: 
>>>
>>> Looking to replace my saloon cvh lump with a 2 litre zetec blacktop 
>>> motor. Anyone have any experience of this... tips.problems . pointers etc? 
>>>
>>> Most of the info I have found relates to using the old silvertop zetec 
>>> engine - I won'r be using one of those (too old/rare/expensive in 
>>> comparison to plentiful cheap blacktops)
>>>
>>> I don't see any problems with manifolds, loom, injection, ecu etc. (I 
>>> will be using aftermarket ecu/efi)
>>>
>>> Biggest problem I see is very tight fit/access in engine bay at crank 
>>> pulley/cambelt end. Ideally I do not want to be cutting inner panel.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
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