Thanks for the input, Troy. I was a little sloppy in my trials and errors. My "fix" involved deleting the _spotlight user for the Desktop in Get Info at the same time as the ~/Desktop .DS_Store file. (Btw, am I causing unforeseen trouble for myself?)
Are there any diagnostics I can send from console to help the cause? Jerry > On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:00 PM, quartzcomposer-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: > > Send Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list submissions to > quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/quartzcomposer-dev > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > quartzcomposer-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > quartzcomposer-dev-ow...@lists.apple.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Quartzcomposer-dev digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Problem saving comps (Jerry Smith) > 2. Re: Problem saving comps (Jim) > 3. Re: Problem saving comps (Alastair Leith) > 4. Re: Problem saving comps (Jerry Smith) > 5. Re: Problem saving comps (Alastair Leith) > 6. Re: Problem saving comps (George Toledo) > 7. Re: Problem saving comps (Jerry Smith) > 8. Re: Problem saving comps (George Toledo) > 9. Re: Problem saving comps (Bruno Degazio) > 10. Re: Problem saving comps (Troy Koelling) > 11. Re: Problem saving comps (Martin Orpen) > 12. Re: Problem saving comps (Martin Orpen) > 13. Re: Problem saving comps (Bruno Degazio) > 14. Re: Problem saving comps (Martin Orpen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:33:50 -0800 > From: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> > To: quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com > Subject: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <f4bd56b0-6947-4288-aa4a-1b7e13522...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. > > QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. > > I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. > Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now > simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a > round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the problem > comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh HD. I am > saving to the Desktop. Any advice? > > Thanks, > Jerry > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141208/e57ecb55/attachment.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png > Type: image/png > Size: 34008 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141208/e57ecb55/attachment.png> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 00:36:03 +0100 > From: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> > To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> > Cc: quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <0106ffad19294a17ac1bdcffa99b7...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp access > the hidden preferences. > > The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime integration > settings. > > > > > > > There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow you to > disable saveless documents. > > > > -- > > Jim Warrier > > Audio Visual Performer > > destroythingsbeautiful.com (http://destroythingsbeautiful.com/) | > www.modulate.org.uk (http://www.modulate.org.uk/) > > > On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote: > >> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >> >> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >> >> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a >> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the problem >> comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh HD. I am >> saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >> >> Thanks, >> Jerry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >> (mailto:Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com)) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/kurbind%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to kurb...@gmail.com (mailto:kurb...@gmail.com) > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/db67512d/attachment.html> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png > Type: image/png > Size: 34008 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/db67512d/attachment.png> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:40:03 +0800 > From: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> > To: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> > Cc: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>, > "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" > <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <07c29ae7-3a77-4cea-aced-ce403d62f...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > what will that do? > > I also had this problem and had a comp crash in front of 250 people :-/. when > I rang Apple > tech support next day we rebuilt permissions and cleared out the > library/caches/ folder and all the problems seemed to go away. haven't used > much since but all the BS with not being able to save documents without > duplicating and saving to a USB drive > stopped > > > Best > Alastair > > Alastair I Leith > Useful Design > 0432 889 821 > 03 9480 5506 > 30 Birch Street > West Preston > VIC 3072 .AU > > >> On 9 Dec 2014, at 7:36 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp >> access the hidden preferences. >> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime integration >> settings. >> >> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow you >> to disable saveless documents. >> >> -- >> >> Jim Warrier >> >> Audio Visual Performer >> >> destroythingsbeautiful.com | www.modulate.org.uk >> >>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote: >>> >>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>> >>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>> >>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a >>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jerry >>> >>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/kurbind%40gmail.com >>> >>> This email sent to kurb...@gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/usefuldesign.au%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to usefuldesign...@gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/31d4a63b/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 22:39:12 -0800 > From: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> > To: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> > Cc: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com>, "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" > <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <08e843f9-6c2c-43fc-8327-e3add2d57...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks for the replies. I cleared Library/Caches and ~/Library/Caches, > repaired permissions twice, deleted user prefs again, disabled saveless > documents, restarted. Save/Cmd-S still generates the "The document could not > be saved” error. Though so far I can Save As and Save a Copy As, so that's > slightly better. > > ~still troubled~ > > Jerry > > > >> On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> what will that do? >> >> I also had this problem and had a comp crash in front of 250 people :-/. >> when I rang Apple >> tech support next day we rebuilt permissions and cleared out the >> library/caches/ folder and all the problems seemed to go away. haven't used >> much since but all the BS with not being able to save documents without >> duplicating and saving to a USB drive >> stopped >> >> >> Best >> Alastair >> >> Alastair I Leith >> Useful Design >> 0432 889 821 >> 03 9480 5506 >> 30 Birch Street >> West Preston >> VIC 3072 .AU >> >> >> On 9 Dec 2014, at 7:36 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com >> <mailto:kurb...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp >>> access the hidden preferences. >>> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime integration >>> settings. >>> >>> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow you >>> to disable saveless documents. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Jim Warrier >>> >>> Audio Visual Performer >>> >>> destroythingsbeautiful.com <http://destroythingsbeautiful.com/> | >>> www.modulate.org.uk <http://www.modulate.org.uk/> >>> >>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote: >>> >>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>> >>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>> >>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>>> <mailto:Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/kurbind%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/kurbind%40gmail.com> >>>> >>>> This email sent to kurb...@gmail.com <mailto:kurb...@gmail.com> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>> <mailto:Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/usefuldesign.au%40gmail.com >>> >>> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/usefuldesign.au%40gmail.com> >>> >>> This email sent to usefuldesign...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:usefuldesign...@gmail.com> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141208/33158673/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:55:13 +0800 > From: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> > To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> > Cc: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com>, "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" > <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <5df8d0e1-33f1-420c-856c-311e93b43...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > call Apple tech support? occasionally you can still get someone really > knowledgeable especially if you they escalate the query to an engineer level > support person. > > Best > Alastair > > Alastair I Leith > Useful Design > 0432 889 821 > 03 9480 5506 > 30 Birch Street > West Preston > VIC 3072 .AU > > >> On 9 Dec 2014, at 2:39 pm, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the replies. I cleared Library/Caches and ~/Library/Caches, >> repaired permissions twice, deleted user prefs again, disabled saveless >> documents, restarted. Save/Cmd-S still generates the "The document could not >> be saved” error. Though so far I can Save As and Save a Copy As, so that's >> slightly better. >> >> ~still troubled~ >> >> Jerry >> >> >> >>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> what will that do? >>> >>> I also had this problem and had a comp crash in front of 250 people :-/. >>> when I rang Apple >>> tech support next day we rebuilt permissions and cleared out the >>> library/caches/ folder and all the problems seemed to go away. haven't used >>> much since but all the BS with not being able to save documents without >>> duplicating and saving to a USB drive >>> stopped >>> >>> >>> Best >>> Alastair >>> >>> Alastair I Leith >>> Useful Design >>> 0432 889 821 >>> 03 9480 5506 >>> 30 Birch Street >>> West Preston >>> VIC 3072 .AU >>> >>> >>>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 7:36 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp >>>> access the hidden preferences. >>>> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime >>>> integration settings. >>>> >>>> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow you >>>> to disable saveless documents. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Jim Warrier >>>> >>>> Audio Visual Performer >>>> >>>> destroythingsbeautiful.com | www.modulate.org.uk >>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>>> >>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>>> >>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jerry >>>>> >>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/kurbind%40gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> This email sent to kurb...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/usefuldesign.au%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to usefuldesign...@gmail.com >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/4080618e/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 02:01:49 -0500 > From: George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> > To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> > Cc: "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" > <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <1527a12f-5202-46aa-9671-d9d1ca3a5...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Have you tried uninstalling all plugins? > > On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >> >> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >> >> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a >> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the problem >> comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh HD. I am >> saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >> >> Thanks, >> Jerry >> >> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/gtoledo3%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to gtole...@gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:08:56 -0800 > From: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> > To: George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> > Cc: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com>, Jim > <kurb...@gmail.com>, "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" > <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <9578d6ed-d25c-4531-a0a4-a95d4d37b...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Wise suggestion, George. > > I might have it — I got a clue because I discovered I was able to save a qtz > as expected to my home folder, but the error was consistent trying to save > files to ~/Desktop and subfolders. So I did the terminal defaults show hidden > files, deleted the .DS_Store file and now it is working. I’m a bit fuzzy why > it worked, we’ll see. > > Thanks for the replies, I appreciate knowing the list is still a resource. > Jerry > > >> On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:01 PM, George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Have you tried uninstalling all plugins? >> >> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>> >>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>> >>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a >>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jerry >>> >>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/gtoledo3%40gmail.com >>> >>> This email sent to gtole...@gmail.com > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 10:57:29 -0500 > From: George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> > To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> > Cc: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com>, Jim > <kurb...@gmail.com>, "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com" > <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <2a752d82-e625-41ae-93a8-ce6abe4ee...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Have you tried repairing permissions as well? That may be a good idea. > > A few times when I've installed a new OS on top of an older one, I've had > some file writing/plugin weirdness that isn't related to out of date plugins. > Sometimes the permissions just wind up wrong. > > I've had a few problems solved by pulling out plugins, and then simply > putting the Graphics folder back, to prompt the "authentication" response of > the OS...and having it wind up that after authentication, things work ok. > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Wise suggestion, George. >> >> I might have it — I got a clue because I discovered I was able to save a qtz >> as expected to my home folder, but the error was consistent trying to save >> files to ~/Desktop and subfolders. So I did the terminal defaults show >> hidden files, deleted the .DS_Store file and now it is working. I’m a bit >> fuzzy why it worked, we’ll see. >> >> Thanks for the replies, I appreciate knowing the list is still a resource. >> Jerry >> >> >>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:01 PM, George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Have you tried uninstalling all plugins? >>> >>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>>> >>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>>> >>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for >>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jerry >>>> >>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/gtoledo3%40gmail.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to gtole...@gmail.com >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:03:40 -0500 > From: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> > To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> > Cc: quartzcomposer-dev list list <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <blu436-smtp17921356023e87a57c900e1d6...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > I’ve been experiencing this since QC changed to Apple’s “new document model” > (I think it was QC 4.6, came with OS 10.8.) > > > It’s such an obvious bug I was sure Apple would fix it before long, but QC > doesn’t seem to get much attention now, so we’re still living with the bug > years later. > > I haven’t found a work-around beyond the one you mention. Or reverting to QC > 4.0 which uses the old document model. > > > ------------------------------------------------- > Bruno Degazio > Faculty of Animation, Arts and Design, > Sheridan College, Oakville, ON > dega...@sheridancollege.ca > website: http://www-acad.sheridanc.on.ca/~degazio > > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >> >> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >> >> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a >> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the problem >> comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh HD. I am >> saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >> >> Thanks, >> Jerry >> >> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/lifemusic%40sympatico.ca >> >> This email sent to lifemu...@sympatico.ca > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/fd03d631/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 09:30:06 -0800 > From: Troy Koelling <tkoell...@apple.com> > To: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> > Cc: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>, quartzcomposer-dev list list > <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <69537216-c77d-48a9-a3e0-5702cdd73...@apple.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Does this still happen if you create a new user? > > Do the people who run into this use virtual macros? Note that some are > installed with the system, so it might not be entirely clear when you're > using them. > > It sounds like this occurs with any file, so it may be something that a > particular plugin or patch causes the AppKit autosaving system to get wedged > the first time, and then all subsequent saving is hosed. > > There has been one report of this (16011310) and it was looked into in > February but it wasn't clear it was this widespread. Any new information will > be helpful to get this fixed. > > >> On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >> I’ve been experiencing this since QC changed to Apple’s “new document model” >> (I think it was QC 4.6, came with OS 10.8.) >> >> >> It’s such an obvious bug I was sure Apple would fix it before long, but QC >> doesn’t seem to get much attention now, so we’re still living with the bug >> years later. >> >> I haven’t found a work-around beyond the one you mention. Or reverting to QC >> 4.0 which uses the old document model. >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------- >> Bruno Degazio >> Faculty of Animation, Arts and Design, >> Sheridan College, Oakville, ON >> dega...@sheridancollege.ca <mailto:dega...@sheridancollege.ca> >> website: http://www-acad.sheridanc.on.ca/~degazio >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jers...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here. >>> >>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP. >>> >>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a >>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jerry >>> >>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >>> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com >>> <mailto:Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>) >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/lifemusic%40sympatico.ca >>> >>> <https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/lifemusic%40sympatico.ca> >>> >>> This email sent to lifemu...@sympatico.ca >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/tkoelling%40apple.com >> >> This email sent to tkoell...@apple.com > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.apple.com/archives/quartzcomposer-dev/attachments/20141209/866cf7e9/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:36:06 +0000 > From: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> > To: quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <298132a4-10c8-47f7-8736-3479101ab...@idea-digital.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 8 Dec 2014, at 23:33, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a >> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the problem >> comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh HD. I am >> saving to the Desktop. Any advice? > > > Get rid of the ACLs associated with the folder that you’re saving to by > deleting the “_spotlight” user: > > > 1. Make a new folder to store compositions in > > 2. Do a Get Info on the new folder > > 3. Unlock the Sharing & Permissions panel. > > 4. Delete the _spotlight user > > > Compositions to this folder should then save as expected. > > -- > Martin Orpen > Idea Digital Imaging Ltd > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:54:58 +0000 > From: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> > To: Troy Koelling <tkoell...@apple.com> > Cc: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca>, Jerry Smith > <jers...@gmail.com>, quartzcomposer-dev list list > <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <27f6a747-6bf1-481a-a599-2cb3583d2...@idea-digital.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > I can’t post to the list at the moment, so maybe you can forward this if it > works for you: > > > > > > On 8 Dec 2014, at 23:33, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a >> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the problem >> comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh HD. I am >> saving to the Desktop. Any advice? > > > Get rid of the ACLs associated with the folder that you’re saving to by > deleting the “_spotlight” user: > > > 1. Make a new folder to store compositions in > > 2. Do a Get Info on the new folder > > 3. Unlock the Sharing & Permissions panel. > > 4. Delete the _spotlight user > > > Compositions to this folder should then save as expected. > > -- > Martin Orpen > Idea Digital Imaging Ltd > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:12:57 -0500 > From: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> > To: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> > Cc: quartzcomposer-dev list list <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <blu436-smtp1363cfd747fb234980c4ee1d6...@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > Thanks for the suggestion Martin. Trying as you say, but the newly created > folder does not have a “_spotlight” user. There is however a user called > “Fetching…” so I've tried deleting that, but without success. I still get the > “Cannot be save” error. > > > Bruno > > On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> wrote: > >> On 8 Dec 2014, at 23:33, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. >>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now >>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a >>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the >>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh >>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice? >> >> >> Get rid of the ACLs associated with the folder that you’re saving to by >> deleting the “_spotlight” user: >> >> >> 1. Make a new folder to store compositions in >> >> 2. Do a Get Info on the new folder >> >> 3. Unlock the Sharing & Permissions panel. >> >> 4. Delete the _spotlight user >> >> >> Compositions to this folder should then save as expected. >> >> -- >> Martin Orpen >> Idea Digital Imaging Ltd >> _______________________________________________ >> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. >> Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list (Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com) >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/quartzcomposer-dev/lifemusic%40sympatico.ca >> >> This email sent to lifemu...@sympatico.ca > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:39:43 +0000 > From: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> > To: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> > Cc: quartzcomposer-dev list list <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com> > Subject: Re: Problem saving comps > Message-ID: <4e495f03-41a7-4104-b8ac-a95b2a713...@idea-digital.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > > On 9 Dec 2014, at 18:12, Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the suggestion Martin. Trying as you say, but the newly created >> folder does not have a “_spotlight” user. There is however a user called >> “Fetching…” so I've tried deleting that, but without success. I still get >> the “Cannot be save” error. > > > Oh OK, on my Mac I was getting the same problem and deleting the ACLs fixed > it. They are inherited via a “_spotlight” user every time I make a new folder > on my MacBook. > > > If it’s another user you can use the Terminal to see if there are any ACLs: > > ls -le foldername > > > And then remove all the ACLs: > > chmod -N foldername > > > Best to test this on a test folder first :-) > > -- > Martin Orpen > Idea Digital Imaging Ltd > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Quartzcomposer-dev mailing list > Quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/quartzcomposer-dev > > > End of Quartzcomposer-dev Digest, Vol 115, Issue 1 > ************************************************** _______________________________________________ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. 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