Have you fixed this yet? I found the answer online a while back when I first 
started experiencing this error - it involves some terminal commands to repair 
the permissions on your user folder. I found the procedure online, I can't 
recall where - I just googled the error message.

If you haven't found a consistent solution, I'll look it up if you need me to.

best,

Patrick Sheffield
Sheffield Softworks

On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the input, Troy.
> 
> I was a little sloppy in my trials and errors. My "fix" involved deleting the 
> _spotlight user for the Desktop in Get Info at the same time as the ~/Desktop 
> .DS_Store file. (Btw, am I causing unforeseen trouble for myself?)
> 
> Are there any diagnostics I can send from console to help the cause?
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
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>>  3. Re: Problem saving comps (Alastair Leith)
>>  4. Re: Problem saving comps (Jerry Smith)
>>  5. Re: Problem saving comps (Alastair Leith)
>>  6. Re: Problem saving comps (George Toledo)
>>  7. Re: Problem saving comps (Jerry Smith)
>>  8. Re: Problem saving comps (George Toledo)
>>  9. Re: Problem saving comps (Bruno Degazio)
>> 10. Re: Problem saving comps (Troy Koelling)
>> 11. Re: Problem saving comps (Martin Orpen)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:33:50 -0800
>> From: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>
>> To: quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com
>> Subject: Problem saving comps
>> Message-ID: <f4bd56b0-6947-4288-aa4a-1b7e13522...@gmail.com>
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>> 
>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here.
>> 
>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP.
>> 
>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a 
>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the problem 
>> comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh HD. I am 
>> saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Jerry
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>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 00:36:03 +0100
>> From: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com>
>> To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
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>> 
>> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp 
>> access the hidden preferences.
>> 
>> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime integration 
>> settings.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow you 
>> to disable saveless documents.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --  
>> 
>> Jim Warrier  
>> 
>> Audio Visual Performer  
>> 
>> destroythingsbeautiful.com (http://destroythingsbeautiful.com/) | 
>> www.modulate.org.uk (http://www.modulate.org.uk/)  
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here.
>>> 
>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP.
>>> 
>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a 
>>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jerry
>>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:40:03 +0800
>> From: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com>
>> To: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>,
>>      "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com"
>>      <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
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>> 
>> what will that do? 
>> 
>> I also had this problem and had a comp crash in front of 250 people :-/. 
>> when I rang Apple
>> tech support next day we rebuilt permissions and cleared out the 
>> library/caches/ folder and all the problems seemed to go away. haven't used 
>> much since but all the BS with not being able to save documents without 
>> duplicating and saving to a USB drive
>> stopped
>> 
>> 
>> Best
>> Alastair
>> 
>> Alastair I Leith
>> Useful  Design
>> 0432  889  821
>> 03  9480  5506
>> 30 Birch Street
>> West   Preston
>> VIC  3072  .AU
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 7:36 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp 
>>> access the hidden preferences.
>>> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime integration 
>>> settings.  
>>> 
>>> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow you 
>>> to disable saveless documents.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Jim Warrier
>>> 
>>> Audio Visual Performer
>>> 
>>> destroythingsbeautiful.com | www.modulate.org.uk 
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here.
>>>> 
>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for 
>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jerry
>>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 22:39:12 -0800
>> From: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>
>> To: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com>, "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com"
>>      <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
>> Message-ID: <08e843f9-6c2c-43fc-8327-e3add2d57...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Thanks for the replies. I cleared Library/Caches and ~/Library/Caches, 
>> repaired permissions twice, deleted user prefs again, disabled saveless 
>> documents, restarted. Save/Cmd-S still generates the "The document could not 
>> be saved” error. Though so far I can Save As and Save a Copy As, so that's 
>> slightly better.
>> 
>> ~still troubled~
>> 
>> Jerry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> what will that do? 
>>> 
>>> I also had this problem and had a comp crash in front of 250 people :-/. 
>>> when I rang Apple
>>> tech support next day we rebuilt permissions and cleared out the 
>>> library/caches/ folder and all the problems seemed to go away. haven't used 
>>> much since but all the BS with not being able to save documents without 
>>> duplicating and saving to a USB drive
>>> stopped
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> Alastair
>>> 
>>> Alastair I Leith
>>> Useful  Design
>>> 0432  889  821
>>> 03  9480  5506
>>> 30 Birch Street
>>> West   Preston
>>> VIC  3072  .AU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 7:36 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:kurb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp 
>>>> access the hidden preferences.
>>>> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime 
>>>> integration settings.  
>>>> 
>>>> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow you 
>>>> to disable saveless documents.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Jim Warrier
>>>> 
>>>> Audio Visual Performer
>>>> 
>>>> destroythingsbeautiful.com <http://destroythingsbeautiful.com/> | 
>>>> www.modulate.org.uk <http://www.modulate.org.uk/> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for 
>>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jerry
>>>>> 
>>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png>
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>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 14:55:13 +0800
>> From: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com>
>> To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Jim <kurb...@gmail.com>, "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com"
>>      <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> call Apple tech support? occasionally you can still get someone really 
>> knowledgeable especially if you they escalate the query to an engineer level 
>> support person. 
>> 
>> Best
>> Alastair
>> 
>> Alastair I Leith
>> Useful  Design
>> 0432  889  821
>> 03  9480  5506
>> 30 Birch Street
>> West   Preston
>> VIC  3072  .AU
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 2:39 pm, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the replies. I cleared Library/Caches and ~/Library/Caches, 
>>> repaired permissions twice, deleted user prefs again, disabled saveless 
>>> documents, restarted. Save/Cmd-S still generates the "The document could 
>>> not be saved” error. Though so far I can Save As and Save a Copy As, so 
>>> that's slightly better.
>>> 
>>> ~still troubled~
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> what will that do? 
>>>> 
>>>> I also had this problem and had a comp crash in front of 250 people :-/. 
>>>> when I rang Apple
>>>> tech support next day we rebuilt permissions and cleared out the 
>>>> library/caches/ folder and all the problems seemed to go away. haven't 
>>>> used much since but all the BS with not being able to save documents 
>>>> without duplicating and saving to a USB drive
>>>> stopped
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best
>>>> Alastair
>>>> 
>>>> Alastair I Leith
>>>> Useful  Design
>>>> 0432  889  821
>>>> 03  9480  5506
>>>> 30 Birch Street
>>>> West   Preston
>>>> VIC  3072  .AU
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 7:36 am, Jim <kurb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hold Option + Any of the tabs that appear in the preferences window tp 
>>>>> access the hidden preferences.
>>>>> The options are System settings, Editor settings, and QuickTime 
>>>>> integration settings.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a option in the hidden preferences Editor tab that will allow 
>>>>> you to disable saveless documents.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim Warrier
>>>>> 
>>>>> Audio Visual Performer
>>>>> 
>>>>> destroythingsbeautiful.com | www.modulate.org.uk 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 9 December 2014 at 00:33, Jerry Smith wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right 
>>>>>> now simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the 
>>>>>> issue for a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I 
>>>>>> think), the problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on 
>>>>>> the Macintosh HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 02:01:49 -0500
>> From: George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com>
>> To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com"
>>      <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
>> Message-ID: <1527a12f-5202-46aa-9671-d9d1ca3a5...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Have you tried uninstalling all plugins?
>> 
>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here.
>>> 
>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP.
>>> 
>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a 
>>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 23:08:56 -0800
>> From: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>
>> To: George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com>, Jim
>>      <kurb...@gmail.com>,    "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com"
>>      <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
>> Message-ID: <9578d6ed-d25c-4531-a0a4-a95d4d37b...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Wise suggestion, George.
>> 
>> I might have it — I got a clue because I discovered I was able to save a qtz 
>> as expected to my home folder, but the error was consistent trying to save 
>> files to ~/Desktop and subfolders. So I did the terminal defaults show 
>> hidden files, deleted the .DS_Store file and now it is working. I’m a bit 
>> fuzzy why it worked, we’ll see.
>> 
>> Thanks for the replies, I appreciate knowing the list is still a resource.
>> Jerry
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:01 PM, George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Have you tried uninstalling all plugins?
>>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here.
>>>> 
>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for 
>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jerry
>>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 10:57:29 -0500
>> From: George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com>
>> To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Alastair Leith <usefuldesign...@gmail.com>, Jim
>>      <kurb...@gmail.com>,    "quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com"
>>      <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
>> Message-ID: <2a752d82-e625-41ae-93a8-ce6abe4ee...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>> 
>> Have you tried repairing permissions as well? That may be a good idea.
>> 
>> A few times when I've installed a new OS on top of an older one, I've had 
>> some file writing/plugin weirdness that isn't related to out of date 
>> plugins. Sometimes the permissions just wind up wrong. 
>> 
>> I've had a few problems solved by pulling out plugins, and then simply 
>> putting the Graphics folder back, to prompt the "authentication" response of 
>> the OS...and having it wind up that after authentication, things work ok.
>> 
>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Wise suggestion, George.
>>> 
>>> I might have it — I got a clue because I discovered I was able to save a 
>>> qtz as expected to my home folder, but the error was consistent trying to 
>>> save files to ~/Desktop and subfolders. So I did the terminal defaults show 
>>> hidden files, deleted the .DS_Store file and now it is working. I’m a bit 
>>> fuzzy why it worked, we’ll see.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the replies, I appreciate knowing the list is still a resource.
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 11:01 PM, George Toledo <gtole...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried uninstalling all plugins?
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for 
>>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jerry
>>>>> 
>>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.
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>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 12:03:40 -0500
>> From: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca>
>> To: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: quartzcomposer-dev list list <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
>> Message-ID: <blu436-smtp17921356023e87a57c900e1d6...@phx.gbl>
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>> 
>> I’ve been experiencing this since QC changed to Apple’s “new document model” 
>> (I think it was QC 4.6, came with OS 10.8.)
>> 
>> 
>> It’s such an obvious bug I was sure Apple would fix it before long, but QC 
>> doesn’t seem to get much attention now, so we’re still living with the bug 
>> years later. 
>> 
>> I haven’t found a work-around beyond the one you mention. Or reverting to QC 
>> 4.0 which uses the old document model. 
>> 
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> Bruno Degazio
>> Faculty of Animation, Arts and Design,
>> Sheridan College, Oakville, ON
>> dega...@sheridancollege.ca
>> website: http://www-acad.sheridanc.on.ca/~degazio 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here.
>>> 
>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP.
>>> 
>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a 
>>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 09:30:06 -0800
>> From: Troy Koelling <tkoell...@apple.com>
>> To: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca>
>> Cc: Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com>, quartzcomposer-dev list list
>>      <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
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>> 
>> Does this still happen if you create a new user?
>> 
>> Do the people who run into this use virtual macros? Note that some are 
>> installed with the system, so it might not be entirely clear when you're 
>> using them. 
>> 
>> It sounds like this occurs with any file, so it may be something that a 
>> particular plugin or patch causes the AppKit autosaving system to get wedged 
>> the first time, and then all subsequent saving is hosed.
>> 
>> There has been one report of this (16011310) and it was looked into in 
>> February but it wasn't clear it was this widespread. Any new information 
>> will be helpful to get this fixed.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve been experiencing this since QC changed to Apple’s “new document 
>>> model” (I think it was QC 4.6, came with OS 10.8.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It’s such an obvious bug I was sure Apple would fix it before long, but QC 
>>> doesn’t seem to get much attention now, so we’re still living with the bug 
>>> years later. 
>>> 
>>> I haven’t found a work-around beyond the one you mention. Or reverting to 
>>> QC 4.0 which uses the old document model. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>> Bruno Degazio
>>> Faculty of Animation, Arts and Design,
>>> Sheridan College, Oakville, ON
>>> dega...@sheridancollege.ca <mailto:dega...@sheridancollege.ca>
>>> website: http://www-acad.sheridanc.on.ca/~degazio 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:jers...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi QC list, hope there’s still some action here.
>>>> 
>>>> QC 4.6 (Sept 18, 2014), OS 10.10.1, 2014 MBP.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for 
>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jerry
>>>> 
>>>> <Screen Shot 2014-12-08 at 3.20.31 PM.png>
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:36:06 +0000
>> From: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com>
>> To: quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
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>> On 8 Dec 2014, at 23:33, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a 
>>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>> 
>> 
>> Get rid of the ACLs associated with the folder that you’re saving to by 
>> deleting the “_spotlight” user:
>> 
>> 
>> 1. Make a new folder to store compositions in 
>> 
>> 2. Do a Get Info on the new folder
>> 
>> 3. Unlock the Sharing & Permissions panel.
>> 
>> 4. Delete the _spotlight user
>> 
>> 
>> Compositions to this folder should then save as expected.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Martin Orpen
>> Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:54:58 +0000
>> From: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com>
>> To: Troy Koelling <tkoell...@apple.com>
>> Cc: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca>, Jerry Smith
>>      <jers...@gmail.com>,    quartzcomposer-dev list list
>>      <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
>> Message-ID: <27f6a747-6bf1-481a-a599-2cb3583d2...@idea-digital.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>> 
>> I can’t post to the list at the moment, so maybe you can forward this if it 
>> works for you:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8 Dec 2014, at 23:33, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for a 
>>> round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>> 
>> 
>> Get rid of the ACLs associated with the folder that you’re saving to by 
>> deleting the “_spotlight” user:
>> 
>> 
>> 1. Make a new folder to store compositions in 
>> 
>> 2. Do a Get Info on the new folder
>> 
>> 3. Unlock the Sharing & Permissions panel.
>> 
>> 4. Delete the _spotlight user
>> 
>> 
>> Compositions to this folder should then save as expected.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Martin Orpen
>> Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 13
>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:12:57 -0500
>> From: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca>
>> To: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com>
>> Cc: quartzcomposer-dev list list <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
>> Message-ID: <blu436-smtp1363cfd747fb234980c4ee1d6...@phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>> 
>> Thanks for the suggestion Martin. Trying as you say, but the newly created 
>> folder does not have a “_spotlight” user. There is however a user called 
>> “Fetching…” so I've tried deleting that, but without success. I still get 
>> the “Cannot be save” error. 
>> 
>> 
>> Bruno
>> 
>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8 Dec 2014, at 23:33, Jerry Smith <jers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m having a problem saving comps after editing using Save or Save As. 
>>>> Duplicating the comp can allow me to save, but QC crashes a lot right now 
>>>> simply trying to save files. Restarting the computer clears the issue for 
>>>> a round of saves, but then after the sceond comp opened (I think), the 
>>>> problem comes back. I deleted prefs, I fixed permissions on the Macintosh 
>>>> HD. I am saving to the Desktop. Any advice?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Get rid of the ACLs associated with the folder that you’re saving to by 
>>> deleting the “_spotlight” user:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1. Make a new folder to store compositions in 
>>> 
>>> 2. Do a Get Info on the new folder
>>> 
>>> 3. Unlock the Sharing & Permissions panel.
>>> 
>>> 4. Delete the _spotlight user
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Compositions to this folder should then save as expected.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Martin Orpen
>>> Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:39:43 +0000
>> From: Martin Orpen <mar...@idea-digital.com>
>> To: Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca>
>> Cc: quartzcomposer-dev list list <quartzcomposer-dev@lists.apple.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem saving comps
>> Message-ID: <4e495f03-41a7-4104-b8ac-a95b2a713...@idea-digital.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>> 
>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 18:12, Bruno Degazio <lifemu...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the suggestion Martin. Trying as you say, but the newly created 
>>> folder does not have a “_spotlight” user. There is however a user called 
>>> “Fetching…” so I've tried deleting that, but without success. I still get 
>>> the “Cannot be save” error. 
>> 
>> 
>> Oh OK, on my Mac I was getting the same problem and deleting the ACLs fixed 
>> it. They are inherited via a “_spotlight” user every time I make a new 
>> folder on my MacBook.
>> 
>> 
>> If it’s another user you can use the Terminal to see if there are any ACLs:
>> 
>>      ls -le foldername
>> 
>> 
>> And then remove all the ACLs:
>> 
>>      chmod -N foldername
>> 
>> 
>> Best to test this on a test folder first :-)
>> 
>> -- 
>> Martin Orpen
>> Idea Digital Imaging Ltd
>> 
>> 
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