On Sun, April 15, 2018 12:52 pm, Thierry Laurion wrote: > Let's start a real debate aimed at improving stuff and building proper > arguments. Pressure against manufacturers will build with market laws, and > energy should be put where things can evolve in the meantime.
I think everyone can agree to this! > G505s are not powerful and tough enough to run Qubes as a daily > driver. They don't have a titanium frame, but what laptops do these days? I did a full Stretch linux-image build in 2.5 hours on one, but that's the heaviest work I put it through. With 16GB RAM and a good SSD, they're fast enough for what I need. > ME is a really nasty piece of shit to deal with, agreed. But things needs > to move forward. Hiding in a cave waiting for things to magically happen > is not enough. I think everyone can agree to this too. I posted some thoughts on ways forward over on qubes-devel a little while ago https://www.mail-archive.com/qubes-devel@googlegroups.com/msg03097.html and there were a couple related threads around the same time. Neither Intel or AMD seem concerned about actual security, only locking down the platform by handing over control of it to manufacturers instead of end users. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d49a2605e3b7a5f8f9a10afcf4d91876.squirrel%40tt3j2x4k5ycaa5zt.onion. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
