I am sorry that the message was interpreted as root.
The honest truth was that though I read the message multiple times and slowing the speech rate down, I still couldn't get the bulk of his questions, so couldn't personally help in any way. Glad to see you were able to parse it out, and, even better, learned some more efficient means of navigation through your post.

----- Original Message ----- From: "James Bowden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: QWS List qws acessiblity forblind users


Hi list,

First, Derek:

I think your reply was
a) off topic and
b) down right rude.

Please publicly apologise. I don't know you Derek and I don't know Neil either, but Neil's questions are genuine - if a little hard to read), your response
was not.

Now, as they say: please redirect all further flames to /dev/nul.
In other words, let that be an end of it.  Thank you.

-----------

Now, Neil, your questions:

The golden rule for both note and control editors when using a screen reader is to keep checking the status bar at the bottom of the screen. The status
bar lists:

Start: the start time of the event, or cursor position
Channel: the MIDI channel number of the event

Then, for note view, you have:

Key: Note key number
Vel: Note velocity
Len: Note length

For the Control editor, you have:

Num: The controller number (which includes the special ones 128-131)
Val: Controller value

At the end, it says either "Ins" or "Mod". If it says Ins, then the cursor is
not on an event and pressing the Insert button will insert a new event.
(I am using the word "event" generically to mean note or controller, the
same works in either editor).

If it says "mod", then the cursor is on an event and you can modify it.

Pressing ALT+LEFT and ALT+RIGHT will move between events in either editor. However,
there is a difference: in the note editor, the note you land on will be
played; in the control editor, the control you land on will not.  This is
mainly because it is not so obvious what controllers are doing as they do
not make any sound and, in some cases, sending only certain controllers
could render your synth silent ...

So, to summarise again, when you use the controller editor or note editor, press
ALT+LEFT or ALT+RIGHT to move to the previous or next event, then check
out the status bar.

Now instrument lists:

I do not have lists for either the Roland Juno D or the Yamaha CL280, but
if you have the relevant manual pages available, I'm sure they can be created.

Hope all this helps.

James





----Original Message----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Oct 5, 2007 1:02:58 AM
To: QWS list <[email protected]>
Subj: Re: QWS List qws acessiblity forblind users

The first step in getting things to read with your setup is formatting your
messages so that they're at least coherent to an eloquence user.
Eloquence gives people loads of headroom for misspellings, as I have
learned
the hard way.  You, therefore, have loads of room for sloppy spelling.
The problem is those low standards are so far above your writing abilities
that you may not have seen them at all.
If you're learning English, I commend you for doing so, and using what
skills you have to the fullest.
However, if English is your first language, I'd recommend pretending
it
wasn't, just to be on the safe side.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Foster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: QWS List qws acessiblity forblind users


> hi
>    I am using qws but I am blind and having  problems with my scren
reader
> and the controller and note editor.   can move about noters pressing
alt
> left and right but can't find anywya to get at program changes I have
> tried setting teh num value to 128 and 131 to get program changes and
> tempo cahnges respectively whichI think are thre correct values but
I'm
> not getting any controllers . Are there any ohter blind users who use
qws
> with ascren reader who can suggest way to get at teh controller
> infomation. As I understanding from teh helpfile it only lists teh
> controllers you specify in teh num value.
>
> any help gratefully recived.
>
> also has anyone got instrumetn lists for a roldand juno d and yamaha
> clavinola cl280?
>
> thank you
>
> neil foster
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