Um, what's with the triple colon? At least on my install, double seems to
suffice:
> identical(utils:::install.packages, utils::install.packages)
[1] TRUE
> install.packages
function (...)
.rs.callAs(name, hook, original, ...)
<environment: 0x7f79e0019860>
-pd
> On 21 Mar 2024, at 09:58 , Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The good news for Jorgen (who may not be reading this thread any more) is
> that one can still be sure of getting the original install.packages() by using
>
> utils:::install.packages( ... )
>
> with *three* colons, to get the internal (namespace) version of the function.
>
> Duncan Murdoch
>
>
> On 21/03/2024 4:31 a.m., Martin Maechler wrote:
>>>>>>> "Duncan Murdoch on Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:20:12 -0400 writes:
>> > On 20/03/2024 1:07 p.m., Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>> >> On 20/03/2024 12:37 p.m., Ben Bolker wrote:
>> >>> Ivan, can you give more detail on this? I've heard this
>> >>> issue mentioned, but when I open RStudio and run
>> >>> find("install.packages") it returns
>> >>> "utils::install.packages", and running dump() from
>> >>> within RStudio console and from an external "R
>> >>> --vanilla" gives identical results.
>> >>>
>> >>> I thought at one point this might only refer to the GUI
>> >>> package-installation interface, but you seem to be
>> >>> saying it's the install.packages() function as well.
>> >>>
>> >>> Running an up-to-date RStudio on Linux, FWIW -- maybe
>> >>> weirdness only happens on other OSs?
>> >>
>> >> On MacOS, I see this:
>> >>
>> >> > install.packages function (...) .rs.callAs(name, hook,
>> >> original, ...) <environment: 0x7fa7c72a6268>
>> >>
>> >> I get the same results as you from find(). I'm not sure
>> >> what RStudio is doing to give a different value for the
>> >> function than what find() sees.
>> > Turns out that RStudio replaces the install.packages
>> > object in the utils package.
>> > Duncan Murdoch
>> Yes, and this has been the case for several years now, and I
>> have mentioned this several times, too (though some of it
>> possibly not in a public R-* mailing list).
>> And yes, that they modify the package environment
>> as.environment("package:utils")
>> but leave the
>> namespace asNamespace("utils")
>> unchanged, makes it harder to see what's
>> going on (but also has less severe consequences; if they kept to
>> the otherwise universal *rule* that the namespace and package must have the
>> same objects
>> apart from those only in the namespace,
>> people would not even have access to R's true install.packages()
>> but only see the RStudio fake^Hsubstitute..
>> We are still not happy with their decision. Also
>> help(install.packages) goes to R's documentation of R's
>> install.packages, so there's even more misleading of useRs.
>> Martin
>>
>
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