Thank you very much John.

How can I run R and Rcmdr in a terminal window?

Best,

Manuel


2013/11/20 John Fox <[email protected]>

> Dear all,
>
> I was able to reproduce the problem on my Macbook and believe I have a
> solution, which is to run R and the Rcmdr in a terminal window. When I did
> this, the Rcmdr behaved normally. I'll investigate further and report my
> findings back to the list.
>
> I'm copying this message to Simon Urbanek who maintains R.app in case he
> has insight into the problem.
>
> I'm also interested whether running R from a terminal window solves the
> problem for others who experienced it.
>
> Best,
>  John
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:19:04 -0500
>  "John Fox" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Dear Jonathan et al,
> >
> > First, thank you to all who responded. As I said, I haven't noticed this
> problem myself, but I'll try again on my Mac later today when I have some
> time and see whether I can reproduce it. I suspect that this is a
> tcltk-related issue, not specific to the Rcmdr, but I don't know that for
> sure.
> >
> > In the meantime, here are two things to try:
> >
> > (1) Reijo Sund suggested trying to run R and the Rcmdr from the command
> line (i.e., in a terminal window), to see whether the problem manifests
> itself there. The Rcmdr doesn't need R.app.
> >
> > (2) It's possible that the slowdown is caused by the way that the Rcmdr
> handles R Markdown documents. The overhead gets greater as the session
> proceeds. To test this possibility, you could suppress the R Markdown tab
> (via the Rcmdr Tools -> Options menu, Output tab -- uncheck the box for R
> Markdown) and see whether the problem disappears.
> >
> > Please let me know what happens.
> >
> > Best,
> >  John
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:41:28 -0600
> >  Jonathan Chapman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I upgraded to XQuartz 2.7.5, but it still lags.
> > >
> > > Jonathan M. Chapman, DVM
> > > 312-813-1166
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> > > > On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Manuel Spínola <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I also have the same experience (like Jonathan) with Rcmdr in Mac
> with Mavericks.  After few minutes Rcmdr starts to have time lags.  I
> updated to XQuartz 2.7.5 but the behavior is the same.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Manuel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/11/20 Reijo Sund <[email protected]>
> > > >> So far I have not had problems with XQuartz, but similar slow-down
> occasionally happens while using tcltk-applications with the Aqua version
> of Tcl/Tk (ActiveTcl 8.6.x binary distribution). Unfortunately I have not
> been able to create a reproducible example.
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyhow, if XQuartz update won’t help, maybe it is worth checking if
> there is any difference while using R.app or command-line R.
> > > >>
> > > >> - - -
> > > >>
> > > >> Prof Brian Ripley <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> > Just checking: which version of XQuartz?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Although I have not experienced any problems, people recommended
> updating to 2.7.5 and I got prompted to do that yesterday (it was released
> last week).
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 20/11/2013 11:52, John Fox wrote:
> > > >> >> Dear Jonathan,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I'm afraid that I don't know why you're experiencing this
> problem. I upgraded my own Mac to Mavericks and the Rcmdr still appears to
> work fine. Also, no one else has reported this problem to me, which of
> course doesn't mean that no one else has experienced it.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I don't doubt that something is wrong on your system but I don't
> know what it might be. You've already reinstalled all of the relevant
> software, which is what I would have suggested.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I'm copying this response to the R Mac OS X email list in case
> someone who reads the list has a suggestion or, perhaps, has also
> experienced the problem.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I'm sorry that I can't be of more help at this time.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> John
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:19:54 -0600
> > > >> >>  Jonathan Chapman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> >>> Dr. Fox,
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> I am an MPH student at the University of Minnesota.  I was
> referred to you by Dr. Ann Brearley because I am having issues running
> Rcmdr in XQuartz since upgrading to OSX Mavericks.  Rcmdr runs slowly,
> more-so as a lag, after an initial 1-2 minutes of use.  Prior to that 1-2
> minutes of use and the subsequent lag in performance, Rcmdr runs perfectly
> fine via XQuartz.  Once closing out XQuartz and restarting it, Rcmdr runs
> fine until after 1-2 minutes of use when the lag sets in again.
> > > >> >>> I’ve tried to remedy the situation prior to contacting you.
>  First, I reinstalled XQuartz.  When that failed to solve the problem, I
> reinstalled XQuartz along with R and Rcmdr.  That attempt also failed.  I
> do not know what else to do or who/where else to turn.
> > > >> >>> Do you have any incite?  Have you heard of anyone else
> encountering this problem?
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Jonathan M. Chapman, DVM
> > > >> >>> 312-813-1166
> > > >> >>> [email protected]
> > > >> >>>
> > > >>
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> John Fox
> McMaster University
> Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
> http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/
>
>
>


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Heredia
COSTA RICA
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