Dear Peter, Thank you for fielding this question.
For the time-being, and pending a more general resolution in R.app, I'll add a note to this effect in the Rcmdr installation notes. Best, John On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:53:11 +0100 peter dalgaard <pda...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:24 , Manuel Spínola <mspinol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thank you very much John. > > > > How can I run R and Rcmdr in a terminal window? > > > > [Kids these days...] > > Just open the Terminal application (its in the Utilities subfolder of the > Applications folder) and type R at its prompt. Then library(Rcmdr) at the R > prompt. > > -pd > > > Best, > > > > Manuel > > > > > > 2013/11/20 John Fox <j...@mcmaster.ca> > > > >> Dear all, > >> > >> I was able to reproduce the problem on my Macbook and believe I have a > >> solution, which is to run R and the Rcmdr in a terminal window. When I did > >> this, the Rcmdr behaved normally. I'll investigate further and report my > >> findings back to the list. > >> > >> I'm copying this message to Simon Urbanek who maintains R.app in case he > >> has insight into the problem. > >> > >> I'm also interested whether running R from a terminal window solves the > >> problem for others who experienced it. > >> > >> Best, > >> John > >> > >> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:19:04 -0500 > >> "John Fox" <j...@mcmaster.ca> wrote: > >>> Dear Jonathan et al, > >>> > >>> First, thank you to all who responded. As I said, I haven't noticed this > >> problem myself, but I'll try again on my Mac later today when I have some > >> time and see whether I can reproduce it. I suspect that this is a > >> tcltk-related issue, not specific to the Rcmdr, but I don't know that for > >> sure. > >>> > >>> In the meantime, here are two things to try: > >>> > >>> (1) Reijo Sund suggested trying to run R and the Rcmdr from the command > >> line (i.e., in a terminal window), to see whether the problem manifests > >> itself there. The Rcmdr doesn't need R.app. > >>> > >>> (2) It's possible that the slowdown is caused by the way that the Rcmdr > >> handles R Markdown documents. The overhead gets greater as the session > >> proceeds. To test this possibility, you could suppress the R Markdown tab > >> (via the Rcmdr Tools -> Options menu, Output tab -- uncheck the box for R > >> Markdown) and see whether the problem disappears. > >>> > >>> Please let me know what happens. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> John > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:41:28 -0600 > >>> Jonathan Chapman <petsr...@icloud.com> wrote: > >>>> I upgraded to XQuartz 2.7.5, but it still lags. > >>>> > >>>> Jonathan M. Chapman, DVM > >>>> 312-813-1166 > >>>> petsr...@icloud.com > >>>> > >>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Manuel Spínola <mspinol...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I also have the same experience (like Jonathan) with Rcmdr in Mac > >> with Mavericks. After few minutes Rcmdr starts to have time lags. I > >> updated to XQuartz 2.7.5 but the behavior is the same. > >>>>> > >>>>> Best, > >>>>> > >>>>> Manuel > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> 2013/11/20 Reijo Sund <reijo.s...@helsinki.fi> > >>>>>> So far I have not had problems with XQuartz, but similar slow-down > >> occasionally happens while using tcltk-applications with the Aqua version > >> of Tcl/Tk (ActiveTcl 8.6.x binary distribution). Unfortunately I have not > >> been able to create a reproducible example. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Anyhow, if XQuartz update wont help, maybe it is worth checking if > >> there is any difference while using R.app or command-line R. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - - - > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Prof Brian Ripley <rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>> Just checking: which version of XQuartz? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Although I have not experienced any problems, people recommended > >> updating to 2.7.5 and I got prompted to do that yesterday (it was released > >> last week). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 20/11/2013 11:52, John Fox wrote: > >>>>>>>> Dear Jonathan, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm afraid that I don't know why you're experiencing this > >> problem. I upgraded my own Mac to Mavericks and the Rcmdr still appears to > >> work fine. Also, no one else has reported this problem to me, which of > >> course doesn't mean that no one else has experienced it. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I don't doubt that something is wrong on your system but I don't > >> know what it might be. You've already reinstalled all of the relevant > >> software, which is what I would have suggested. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm copying this response to the R Mac OS X email list in case > >> someone who reads the list has a suggestion or, perhaps, has also > >> experienced the problem. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I'm sorry that I can't be of more help at this time. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> John > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:19:54 -0600 > >>>>>>>> Jonathan Chapman <petsr...@icloud.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Dr. Fox, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I am an MPH student at the University of Minnesota. I was > >> referred to you by Dr. Ann Brearley because I am having issues running > >> Rcmdr in XQuartz since upgrading to OSX Mavericks. Rcmdr runs slowly, > >> more-so as a lag, after an initial 1-2 minutes of use. Prior to that 1-2 > >> minutes of use and the subsequent lag in performance, Rcmdr runs perfectly > >> fine via XQuartz. Once closing out XQuartz and restarting it, Rcmdr runs > >> fine until after 1-2 minutes of use when the lag sets in again. > >>>>>>>>> Ive tried to remedy the situation prior to contacting you. > >> First, I reinstalled XQuartz. When that failed to solve the problem, I > >> reinstalled XQuartz along with R and Rcmdr. That attempt also failed. I > >> do not know what else to do or who/where else to turn. > >>>>>>>>> Do you have any incite? Have you heard of anyone else > >> encountering this problem? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Jonathan M. Chapman, DVM > >>>>>>>>> 312-813-1166 > >>>>>>>>> petsr...@icloud.com > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list > >>>>>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org > >>>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Manuel Spínola, Ph.D. > >>>>> Instituto Internacional en Conservación y Manejo de Vida Silvestre > >>>>> Universidad Nacional > >>>>> Apartado 1350-3000 > >>>>> Heredia > >>>>> COSTA RICA > >>>>> mspin...@una.ac.cr > >>>>> mspinol...@gmail.com > >>>>> Teléfono: (506) 2277-3598 > >>>>> Fax: (506) 2237-7036 > >>>>> Personal website: Lobito de río > >>>>> Institutional website: ICOMVIS > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------ > >> John Fox > >> McMaster University > >> Hamilton, Ontario, Canada > >> http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/ > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > *Manuel Spínola, Ph.D.* > > Instituto Internacional en Conservación y Manejo de Vida Silvestre > > Universidad Nacional > > Apartado 1350-3000 > > Heredia > > COSTA RICA > > mspin...@una.ac.cr > > mspinol...@gmail.com > > Teléfono: (506) 2277-3598 > > Fax: (506) 2237-7036 > > Personal website: Lobito de río <https://sites.google.com/site/lobitoderio/> > > Institutional website: ICOMVIS <http://www.icomvis.una.ac.cr/> > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > R-SIG-Mac mailing list > > R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac > > -- > Peter Dalgaard, Professor, > Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School > Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark > Phone: (+45)38153501 > Email: pd....@cbs.dk Priv: pda...@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac