On 20 Nov 2013, at 22:24 , Manuel Spínola <mspinol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you very much John. > > How can I run R and Rcmdr in a terminal window? > [Kids these days...] Just open the Terminal application (it’s in the Utilities subfolder of the Applications folder) and type R at its prompt. Then library(Rcmdr) at the R prompt. -pd > Best, > > Manuel > > > 2013/11/20 John Fox <j...@mcmaster.ca> > >> Dear all, >> >> I was able to reproduce the problem on my Macbook and believe I have a >> solution, which is to run R and the Rcmdr in a terminal window. When I did >> this, the Rcmdr behaved normally. I'll investigate further and report my >> findings back to the list. >> >> I'm copying this message to Simon Urbanek who maintains R.app in case he >> has insight into the problem. >> >> I'm also interested whether running R from a terminal window solves the >> problem for others who experienced it. >> >> Best, >> John >> >> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:19:04 -0500 >> "John Fox" <j...@mcmaster.ca> wrote: >>> Dear Jonathan et al, >>> >>> First, thank you to all who responded. As I said, I haven't noticed this >> problem myself, but I'll try again on my Mac later today when I have some >> time and see whether I can reproduce it. I suspect that this is a >> tcltk-related issue, not specific to the Rcmdr, but I don't know that for >> sure. >>> >>> In the meantime, here are two things to try: >>> >>> (1) Reijo Sund suggested trying to run R and the Rcmdr from the command >> line (i.e., in a terminal window), to see whether the problem manifests >> itself there. The Rcmdr doesn't need R.app. >>> >>> (2) It's possible that the slowdown is caused by the way that the Rcmdr >> handles R Markdown documents. The overhead gets greater as the session >> proceeds. To test this possibility, you could suppress the R Markdown tab >> (via the Rcmdr Tools -> Options menu, Output tab -- uncheck the box for R >> Markdown) and see whether the problem disappears. >>> >>> Please let me know what happens. >>> >>> Best, >>> John >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:41:28 -0600 >>> Jonathan Chapman <petsr...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> I upgraded to XQuartz 2.7.5, but it still lags. >>>> >>>> Jonathan M. Chapman, DVM >>>> 312-813-1166 >>>> petsr...@icloud.com >>>> >>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Manuel Spínola <mspinol...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I also have the same experience (like Jonathan) with Rcmdr in Mac >> with Mavericks. After few minutes Rcmdr starts to have time lags. I >> updated to XQuartz 2.7.5 but the behavior is the same. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Manuel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/11/20 Reijo Sund <reijo.s...@helsinki.fi> >>>>>> So far I have not had problems with XQuartz, but similar slow-down >> occasionally happens while using tcltk-applications with the Aqua version >> of Tcl/Tk (ActiveTcl 8.6.x binary distribution). Unfortunately I have not >> been able to create a reproducible example. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyhow, if XQuartz update won’t help, maybe it is worth checking if >> there is any difference while using R.app or command-line R. >>>>>> >>>>>> - - - >>>>>> >>>>>> Prof Brian Ripley <rip...@stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> Just checking: which version of XQuartz? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Although I have not experienced any problems, people recommended >> updating to 2.7.5 and I got prompted to do that yesterday (it was released >> last week). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20/11/2013 11:52, John Fox wrote: >>>>>>>> Dear Jonathan, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm afraid that I don't know why you're experiencing this >> problem. I upgraded my own Mac to Mavericks and the Rcmdr still appears to >> work fine. Also, no one else has reported this problem to me, which of >> course doesn't mean that no one else has experienced it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't doubt that something is wrong on your system but I don't >> know what it might be. You've already reinstalled all of the relevant >> software, which is what I would have suggested. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm copying this response to the R Mac OS X email list in case >> someone who reads the list has a suggestion or, perhaps, has also >> experienced the problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm sorry that I can't be of more help at this time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:19:54 -0600 >>>>>>>> Jonathan Chapman <petsr...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Dr. Fox, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am an MPH student at the University of Minnesota. I was >> referred to you by Dr. Ann Brearley because I am having issues running >> Rcmdr in XQuartz since upgrading to OSX Mavericks. Rcmdr runs slowly, >> more-so as a lag, after an initial 1-2 minutes of use. Prior to that 1-2 >> minutes of use and the subsequent lag in performance, Rcmdr runs perfectly >> fine via XQuartz. Once closing out XQuartz and restarting it, Rcmdr runs >> fine until after 1-2 minutes of use when the lag sets in again. >>>>>>>>> I’ve tried to remedy the situation prior to contacting you. >> First, I reinstalled XQuartz. When that failed to solve the problem, I >> reinstalled XQuartz along with R and Rcmdr. That attempt also failed. I >> do not know what else to do or who/where else to turn. >>>>>>>>> Do you have any incite? Have you heard of anyone else >> encountering this problem? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Jonathan M. Chapman, DVM >>>>>>>>> 312-813-1166 >>>>>>>>> petsr...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >>>>>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >>>>>> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Manuel Spínola, Ph.D. >>>>> Instituto Internacional en Conservación y Manejo de Vida Silvestre >>>>> Universidad Nacional >>>>> Apartado 1350-3000 >>>>> Heredia >>>>> COSTA RICA >>>>> mspin...@una.ac.cr >>>>> mspinol...@gmail.com >>>>> Teléfono: (506) 2277-3598 >>>>> Fax: (506) 2237-7036 >>>>> Personal website: Lobito de río >>>>> Institutional website: ICOMVIS >> >> ------------------------------------------------ >> John Fox >> McMaster University >> Hamilton, Ontario, Canada >> http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/ >> >> >> > > > -- > *Manuel Spínola, Ph.D.* > Instituto Internacional en Conservación y Manejo de Vida Silvestre > Universidad Nacional > Apartado 1350-3000 > Heredia > COSTA RICA > mspin...@una.ac.cr > mspinol...@gmail.com > Teléfono: (506) 2277-3598 > Fax: (506) 2237-7036 > Personal website: Lobito de río <https://sites.google.com/site/lobitoderio/> > Institutional website: ICOMVIS <http://www.icomvis.una.ac.cr/> > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > _______________________________________________ > R-SIG-Mac mailing list > R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac -- Peter Dalgaard, Professor, Center for Statistics, Copenhagen Business School Solbjerg Plads 3, 2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark Phone: (+45)38153501 Email: pd....@cbs.dk Priv: pda...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac