Ok Ash, Two simple questions:
- *Permanent developer:* 100K pa - what is your placement fee? - *Contract developer:* Client Pays 100ph total (including all on costs) what is the developer paid ph? Regards, Stonie. On 13 July 2012 16:02, Ashley P <[email protected]> wrote: > Chances are they might be :) > > But we aren't all bad! > > If you are a Ruby developer chances are you've probably seen my name > before either on Seek, at Ruby meet-ups or on one of those pesky > Linked-in invites I send around. I really like the Ruby community and have > a passion for working with developers to find them cool jobs. > > That being said recruitment gets a bad name especially amongst the Ruby > community. I'm here to defend our reputation but also to acknowledge our > flaws. > > Many recruiters do have no idea when it comes to development roles. They > throw out buzz words like 'Apache' or 'Object Oriented' to make it look > like they know what they are talking about. > > That being said a recruiter can often be of use. They can present > opportunities that you wouldn't have heard about, discuss potential career > movements or even help with your resume and skills training programs. > > Sure as a quality developer you could probably find a good job yourself. > But are you sure it's the best job!!? Use your own networks in addition to > a recruiter to expand the pool of jobs and find yourself in the best job > you can! > * > * > *Tips on dealing with recruiters:* > > - 1. Don't only use a recruiter. *Use your own networks as well.* Come > up with an many opportunities as you can yourself and then use a recruiter > or 2 to expand your opportunities > - 2. *Don't be pushed around on Salary/Rate*. Know what you're worth. > Be open with your salary with a friend or former colleague to know what > your worth and stick to it. (A common tactic is to ask people what they > were on previously and hold them to a salary near this. You shouldn't fall > for it. Be honest about what you were previously on but let the recruiter / > hiring manager know that due to your research you believe the market rate > to be X and that you are hoping for a figure around that mark.) > - 3. *Ask who the client is*. Often a recruiter will want to chat to > you a bit first however, it is totally within your right to ask who the > recruiters client is after an initial chat to determine your suitability > - 4. Remember *your in control of the process. *If you don't like a > specific recruiter don't use him/her. In fact it's your right to call up > and say I don't want you representing me to X. > > *Can a recruiter really help me?* > > - Yes and no. It really depends on the relationships the recruiter has > built. > - If the recruiter is blindly sending CV's around town without having > met the hiring manager they really won't be of any use to you. > - That being said if they have built a strong relationship with the > hiring manager their word often will decide whether or not you get an > interview :). They can also act as a beneficial middle ground to assist in > negotiations and getting things moving! > > > *Recruitment Rates* > > - Are recruitment rates too high? Well honestly yes they are fairly > high but we are running a business and as you can all understand we need to > make a profit! > - Also people don't realise the amount of effort we actually go to in > providing a short-list. Many developers think I just simply called them, > sent their resume to the company and got a massive cheque. What they don't > realise is that to get that one person a job I had to look at over 400 > resumes, speak to over 80 people and all for a 1/3 shot in actually filling > a position. I work 8-6 and I'm a fairly quick worker! > - That being said yes some recruitment rates are too high and > companies need to be smart on who they use. > > Anyway if your looking for a recruiter who loves the Ruby community and > who actually cares about your career please give me a call. I won't screw > you over and I'm available after-hours with bookings and all conversations > are 100% confidential. > > [email protected]. 0404-590-975. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rails-oceania/-/aLVX8Z0zIuUJ. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en.
