Philoye,

Amusing. :) 

But there is a big difference here. Recruiters offer their services to 
coders (and potential employers). So I think transparency is fair there. In 
that sense, it's somewhat similar to speaking with a mortgage broker, who 
will act as a middle man and find you the best loan.

I'm happy to explain what I earn to an employer, or a recruiter, and to go 
through it and justify it. This is a somewhat moot point, as they have to 
find out anyway. I think it'd be *terrific* if I saw a similar transparency 
from a recruter.

And note, this doesn't mean Ash has to explain things en masse to the 
group. I'd just think it'd be a reform of sorts if recruiters began be 
explaining how they take their cut, as middle men often do. It'd be a 
factor for me when deciding to deal with one.

Cheers,
Nicholas



On Monday, July 16, 2012 8:31:28 AM UTC+10, philoye wrote:
>
> Nicholas and Stonie, 
>
> Something got cut off on your emails. 
> You know, the part where you post your hourly rate/salary in a public 
> forum, along with its justification for us all to judge. 
>
> p. 
>
>
> On 16/07/2012, at 8:17 AM, Nicholas Faiz wrote: 
>
> > Stonie great question! Recruiters who were transparent about what they 
> charged, and could justify it, would win a lot of ground, I think. 
>
>
> On 15/07/2012, at 11:57 PM, Andrew Stone wrote: 
>
> >         • Permanent developer: 100K pa - what is your placement fee? 
> >         • Contract developer: Client Pays 100ph total (including all on 
> costs) what is the developer paid ph? 
>
>

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