Steve Hoeksema <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm fine with them, even though I'm not looking. It's a useful > barometer of who's hiring, where, for what jobs, and for how much.
Likewise. I think this information keeps it generally useful, even to those not actively looking for work. Michael Pearson <[email protected]> wrote: > Can we get stricter on the guidelines? Name the customer or keep it to seek? > That's valuable. That sounds like a good idea to me. — Paul On 08/10/2012, at 4:13 PM, Michael Pearson <[email protected]> wrote: > Not really. I think that this group is still a really useful resource for > those looking for people or looking for work, primarily because those posting > have cross the invisible barrier of "care enough about Ruby to be involved". > Most of the job postings in the past have been a cut above the normal - and > as somebody who's posted his own ad, so have the candidates. > > The problem I have with some of the postings coming through lately is that > they're "blind". There's the minimum amount of research performed to > determine that the list exists, that it's a good resource for Ruby people, > and if you're lucky they've bothered to read the guidelines and have put > [JOB] in the title. > > But, unfortunately, I don't know them from jack. They could be just resume > farming. Some have pointed out that they like to know who's hiring: those > aren't the emails I'm talking about. I'm talking about the blind, > won't-name-the-customer ads. > > Can we get stricter on the guidelines? Name the customer or keep it to seek? > That's valuable. > > I'm also, as a consequence of people suggesting this to me (you know who you > are), volunteering to help moderate the list. > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Ivan Vanderbyl <[email protected]> > wrote: > What if we only allowed job postings from people looking for work, that > should make things a bit quieter no? > > — Ivan > > On 08/10/2012, at 3:55 PM, Keith Pitt <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't like bitching about stuff, so I'm not going to. >> >> Can we not just not allow job posts for this group? I'm not sure how helpful >> they are. They are just spam for me. There are plenty of good sites job >> postings if people are looking. >> >> -- >> Keith Pitt >> Sent with Sparrow >> >> On Monday, 8 October 2012 at 3:50 PM, Julio Cesar Ody wrote: >> >>> On topic being the one-off actually technical question we get once >>> every month or so? >>> >>> Every now and then, a thread bitching about job posts comes up, and it >>> just pushes people a bit closer to unsubscribing. It doesn't prevent >>> anything from happening (as it should be clear by now). It just adds >>> to the annoyance, often being worse than the posts that are the topic >>> of the complaint. >>> >>> Newsflash: sometimes, people who don't know about the guidelines will >>> post. Wanna fix the problem? Become a moderator. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Daniel Draper <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Can I suggest that people use Codehire.com for this kind of thing? Its >>>> exactly this sort of problem that we set out to solve. Right now its free >>>> to >>>> list and we'll be giving coders the ability to subscribe to jobs of >>>> interest >>>> very soon. It will keep Rails Oceania (and other boards for that matter) a >>>> bit more on topic! >>>> >>>> (Disclaimer: Yes, Codehire is my site :)) >>>> >>>> On 8 October 2012 13:30, Michael Pearson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Would you like to earn $80 for one hour of your time and are in the Sydney >>>>> CBD? >>>>> >>>>> Talk to me, and I'll refer you to somebody. You'll have to pretend to be >>>>> me and give me $150, but I'll give you $80, honest. >>>>> >>>>> .. >>>>> >>>>> Ok. >>>>> >>>>> There's been quite a few questionable job postings lately. By >>>>> "questionable" I mean "copy/paste the standard Looking for a Ninja/Great >>>>> Dynamic Company seek.com.au template". Recruiters I've never seen on the >>>>> list before. It's getting kind of spammy. >>>>> >>>>> This isn't helping, but I can't actually find out who moderates this list >>>>> through the Google Groups interface, so we all get to argue about it here. >>>>> >>>>> I like using RORO as a discussion forum AND as a recruitment/job pool. >>>>> It's not going to have value as either if this "free classifieds" stuff >>>>> keeps up. >>>>> >>>>> The $150 / Sydney thing is a nice example. Is it $150 or $120? I dunno, >>>>> hit send, don't talk to your client. >>>>> >>>>> I've got a suggestion: if you've never posted on the list before, and your >>>>> first posting is a job ad, you've gotta come to a meetup first. Otherwise, >>>>> there's not much that's difference between whatever you're about to post >>>>> and >>>>> what can be found on seek.com.au. >>>>> >>>>> I would rather a low traffic list than one I have to filter out. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Michael Pearson >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Daniel Draper >>>> CEO (Code Executive Officer), >>>> Codefire >>>> >>>> www.codefire.com >>>> >>>> Mobile: +61 403 089 661 >>>> Aus: +61 8 7127 6740 >>>> US: +1 (408) 217-1859 >>>> >>>> AppLaunch | Rescue Ops | Integrate >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > > -- > Michael Pearson > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. 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