Jonathan, I hear what you're saying but the "options" that make it better for a smaller church aren't any better than they currently are. A smaller church today, can "opt out" of the uniform, the awards, the books, the "stock" so it really hasn't changed. There will be significant cost associated with the new program - those cost can be opted out - same as right now.
The little I've seen actually looks like more costs - costs for meeting plans that are for the smaller undermanned church (which still has to find the money even if it doesn't have the manning), more awards being awarded (the round robin stuff), etc. Anything can be opted out to save money but that doesn't help it just keeps status qou. Right? Michael In a message dated Thu, 17 Jan 2002 10:28:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, Jonathan Trower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 10:14 AM 1/17/2002 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >What happened to the idea that this was supposed to HELP the smaller churches? > > Keep in mind that these estimates are for an outpost of 35 boys and 8 > commanders, which hardly describes most small churches. > > These estimates, as published below, leave out a lot of the details about > how these estimates were developed and what is included. > > For example, these estimates include vests and other items for each person > that a smaller, or poorer church may opt to skip for now. For the boys, the > estimate includes their handbook and workbook, new/changed patches for the > uniform, and vest with patches. For the leaders, the estimates include a > Leaders Manual, patches for the uniform, training and the new LMA, handbook > for the age he/she is working with, a leaders guide, and a vest. > > Finally, the "outpost stock and library" estimate contains items like 5 FCF > handbooks for an outpost library, 3 of each leaders guides (even though one > is included in the commanders estimate for each commander), extra handbooks > and workbooks for the boys (2 for each age group), one of each of the merit > reference books (three in all), a program manual for one of the Expedition > Rangers programs, and lots of patches, posters, and brochures. > > You have to look at everything that is included and ask yourself what your > church/outpost will need to get started. That's a better estimate of the > cost for the new program. > > Jonathan > > > > > >In a message dated Thu, 17 Jan 2002 9:23:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, > >Mark W Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Just food for thought. This was mailed in our District Newsletter. So > > > be prepared to raise funds!!!! > > > > > > Sample of Cost: > > > An outpost with 35 boys would have the following costs: > > > $50 per boy x 35 > > > boys.......................................................$1750.00 > > > $100 per commander x 8 commanders............................... .$800.00 > > > Cost for Outpost Stock and > > > Library...................................$2000.00 > > > > > > Total Cost for Outpost of > > > 43..............................................$4550.00 > > > > > > New stuff costs. So plan on some extra fund raisers to cover the cost! > > > > > > Mark Jones, Ozark MO, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Download a Free Royal Ranger > > > Database visit my website at: http://home1.gte.net/mjones02/index.html > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > _______ > > > This mailing list is dedicated to the glory of God. > > > Let the Golden Rule be your daily rule. > > > > > > Offering bucket: http://eBible.org/mpj/partner.htm > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm > > > http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >_______ > > This mailing list is dedicated to the glory of God. > > Let the Golden Rule be your daily rule. > > > > Offering bucket: http://eBible.org/mpj/partner.htm > > > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm > > http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __________________________________ > Jonathan Trower > South Central Region Training Coordinator > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > phone: 254-420-1941 > RR homepage: http://mis.baylor.edu/trower > > _______ > This mailing list is dedicated to the glory of God. > Let the Golden Rule be your daily rule. > > Offering bucket: http://eBible.org/mpj/partner.htm > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm > http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______ This mailing list is dedicated to the glory of God. Let the Golden Rule be your daily rule. Offering bucket: http://eBible.org/mpj/partner.htm To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm http://rangernet.org Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
