We have also done it for the ROY. And many kids have no equipment. So it often becomes a problem for them to go somewhere on a hike or a camp. Giving a gift (some camping equipment) helps them to do camping better, and adding more value to the advancement system. And usually these are Rangers who is going to stay around for a while. So it worth it.
I am kind of afraid to give money as a prize. I think there's a big chance for kids to become motivated by greediness. And it's allready enough of it in the world. So we better teach them not to be greedy. My two kopeks :) Boris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark W Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [RR] $100 merit race > > I see both sides of the issue. We give out a $20 - 30 gift to the ROY > boys and take them out to dinner and recognize them as well. Quarterly > they receive a 20.00 gift. Mostly camping items. This year I will be > giving out the LED head light. > > Pros: > It keeps the achievement in front of them. Quarterly at least! We do the > point system as well weekly. > It gives them motivation to go beyond their own self motivation. > It works. Been doing it for 5 years. Always have 5 entries in ROY. > Boys know if they work hard they will be rewarded. > It also makes our record keeping to be the best it can be. When their is > money in it things get a little more professional. > They do it at work. It's called incentive and it does produce better > results. > > Cons: > It cost money. > > My two cents. > Mark Jones > > > On Thu, 7 Feb 2002 22:50:21 -0700 "Bob Simons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > > In a sense we do bribe them or pay them a reward-the metal or ribbon. > > > I know > > > what you're saying about the obligation-Diane. It does smack of > > > give-me > > > selfishness. > > > There is a point in which the boy learns to achieve just to be able > > > to prove > > > it to himself that he could do it and have earned some self-respect > > > in doing > > > it. > > > God help us if we all only do something expecting to get something > > > in > > > return. That is lack of responsibility I believe. Responsibility is > > > a an > > > honor that God places on those who are dilligent in the little > > > things. > > > A servants heart is something to strive for also. > > > Bob Simons > > > > > > For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, > > > "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give > > > you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dead Beaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 10:29 AM > > > Subject: Re: [RR] $100 merit race > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *With all due respect to a good idea.. > > > > > > > > I am firmly opposed to "paying" or "prizeing" a boys > > > > achievements. It just does not make good ethical sence. > > > > > > > > The advancement is for him to achieve, and his failure is > > > > also a worthy point for him to consider. *Both are teachible > > > > moments for us to use as Leaders.. > > > > > > > > Perhaps if you invited all who achived one rank or merit > > > > to attend a event, paintball game ect. that might be better, > > > > But I still feel the advancement must be pure and clean of > > > > any "motovational bribe". It isn't needed. > > > > > > > > In the past- > > > > > > > > I'm guilty myself of "gifting" a pocketknife to every > > > > Ranger who succeeded in my cut and chop class. *Shorty.. > > > > visitors would come and hand me the test sheet and.. > > > > *Demand a pocketknife.. from me. > > > > > > > > Q? "what was my intention for gifting the boys in the first > > > place?" > > > > > > > > A! I never intended to "owe" a boy a knife, and resented the > > > shift > > > > away from tool safety to the "gift". > > > > > > > > All that.. and you are free to do what you think best. > > > > *I'm sure the $100 winner will be blessed. > > > > > > > > -=A=- > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Spirit Rider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > All, > > > > > Tonight in Rangers I'm going to lay out something > > > > > for the Pioneers. I'm going to tell them that the boy who earns > > > the most > > > > > merits in the next six months will be given $100. I'm hopeing > > > they will > > > > > not only look at this as a "race" but as a way to motivte them > > > to earn > > > > > merits on there own. I'm hopeing they will take the ball and run > > > with > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > Later, > > > > > Noel "Spirit Rider" Bell > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > *High MORALE is the Index of effective Leadership. > > > > --------------********+********-------------------- > > > > Morale raises belief of the Leader in the follower, > > > > of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself, > > > > and both in the .....cause! > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! 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