I will agree with James Dobson of Focus on the family. It is a Mistake to put 12 year old boys in with 20 year old boys and girls. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out...yet most of our Churches are missing it majorly including mine.
But hey if it wasn't for the young crowd I ran with at Church I might not have never been introduced to pot, alcohol and cigarettes and eventually so low that all I could do was look up and couldn't but help to cry out for God to help me. God can use anything and he can use Uth as well. My two cents yours may vary. Mark Jones On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:09:43 -0800 "David E. Franks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One thing I have never understood. Why do we say, "Lose them to > Youth." If > we were saying, "Lose them to Satan," then that would be a loss. If > the > youth serves them better then why is that a loss? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Bob Simons > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RR] What would you do? > > > I'm not talking GMA, just Recruit, Powderhorn or 2nd class. I do > think that > a lot guys will give up and go do something else if they are not > encouraged > to keep at it. It seems to be a product of our instant society > today. > "Entertain me" society. We, as leaders, have to compete to keep > their > interest peaked or we tend to lose them to Yuth or the whatever. > Nintendo or > Playstation or whatever will be more appealing and they will sit in > a room > and play that for hours. Memorizing the Bible or some points of an > emblem > are like schoolwork-they'd rather play! > In a way I can't blame them. > We need to make Rangers more fun than the games they have now. > my .02 > Bob Simons > > For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, > "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give > you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark W Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:32 PM > Subject: Re: [RR] What would you do? > > > > I have had this same situation. Treat it very carefully. After > several > > calls by the mother of this young man to the national office and > them > > refereeing them back to me... I requested a meeting with the boy > and his > > mom. I explained the GMA is more than running through a bunch of > merits. > > I asked the boy in front of his mom. Tie a bowline, do this do > that... > > he didn't know any of the basic things a boys should know if he is > a GMA > > candidate. He did work on some of these merits at home but rarely > made > > any outings. Many of the merits he claimed to have I had no > record of > > when I asked him when he did this step he had no recollection of > it. > > > > He was only about to turn 12 and in no way was a GMA. I told him > if he > > wanted the Medal that bad he cold buy it from GPH. However I > wasn't for > > sale and wouldn't sign off on it. He needed to mature and at > least know > > some of the basics. I strongly encouraged him to make some of > the > > outings and work on retaining some of these things he had learned. > I > > explained our Last GMA got his at 17....that was 5 years later > than what > > he and his mom were demanding. He left the outpost and chose to > work at > > McDonalds on Wed nights. It was his choice. I very much so > encouraged > > him to stick it out. He was young he had time and very likely > could earn > > this award. > > > > Why we reduced the GMA to 12 I don't know. What is left after GMA > for a > > boy? Why must we push all this on a young man that has no > seasoning? If > > you take a board freshly cut and you don't let it season or adjust > it > > will warp and twist. I feel very strongly that this is also true > for > > young men. The numbers game is man's game. God's plan is for > each one > > of us. If we were bricks then line us up and get those numbers > counted > > up...but we are referred to stones each one a little bit different > and > > requires the masons hand to place us exactly where we need to go. > My two > > cents. Yours may vary. > > > > Mark Jones > > > > On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:13:39 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The Pioneer is moving up to Trailblazers soon. He is wearing > 15 > > > merits on > > > his chest, including Bible, Physical Fitness, Citizenship, etc. > His > > > Pioneer > > > Commander Daddy says "He's just a couple of months from earning > his > > > GMA". > > > But... > > > > > > You _know_ the requirements for many merits have been > superficially > > > adhered > > > to at best. > > > > > > You _know_ that Mama and Daddy have been lenient in signing > things > > > off. > > > > > > You are _not_ the Senior Commander. > > > > > > You _are_ the Trailblazer commander. > > > > > > What do you do, if anything? > > > > > > Of course, this is PURELY a hypothetical situation! <G> > > > _______ > > > Let the Golden Rule be your daily rule. > > > > > > Please pray for your list sponsor: http://eBible.org/mpj/ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm > > > http://rangernet.org > > > > > > > > > Mark Jones, Ozark MO, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Download a Free Royal > Ranger > > Database visit my website at: > http://home1.gte.net/mjones02/index.html > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > Join Juno today! 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