Losing to something good is still losing.  If my wife goes dies and I lose
her it will be better for her but it still is my lose.
Semantics and nit picking.
Bob Simons

For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD,
"plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give
you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11
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Subject: RE: [RR] What would you do?


> One thing I have never understood.  Why do we say, "Lose them to Youth."
If
> we were saying, "Lose them to Satan," then that would be a loss.  If the
> youth serves them better then why is that a loss?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Bob Simons
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: Re: [RR] What would you do?
>
>
> I'm not talking GMA, just Recruit, Powderhorn or 2nd class.  I do think
that
> a lot guys will give up and go do something else if they are not
encouraged
> to keep at it.  It seems to be a product of our instant society today.
> "Entertain me" society.  We, as leaders, have to compete to keep their
> interest peaked or we tend to lose them to Yuth or the whatever. Nintendo
or
> Playstation or whatever will be more appealing and they will sit in a room
> and play that for hours. Memorizing the Bible or some points of an emblem
> are like schoolwork-they'd rather play!
> In a way I can't blame them.
> We need to make Rangers more fun than the games they have now.
> my .02
> Bob Simons
>
> For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD,
> "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give
> you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark W Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [RR] What would you do?
>
>
> > I have had this same situation.  Treat it very carefully.  After several
> > calls by the mother of this young man to the national office and them
> > refereeing them back to me... I requested a meeting with the boy and his
> > mom.  I explained the GMA is more than running through a bunch of
merits.
> >  I asked the boy in front of his mom.  Tie a bowline, do this do that...
> > he didn't know any of the basic things a boys should know if he is a GMA
> > candidate.  He did work on some of these merits at home but rarely made
> > any outings.  Many of the merits he claimed to have I had no record of
> > when I asked him when he did this step he had no recollection of it.
> >
> > He was only about to turn 12 and in no way was a GMA.  I told him if he
> > wanted the Medal that bad he cold buy it from GPH.  However I wasn't for
> > sale and wouldn't sign off on it.  He needed to mature and at least know
> > some of the basics.  I strongly encouraged him to make some of the
> > outings and work on retaining some of these things he had learned.  I
> > explained our Last GMA got his at 17....that was 5 years later than what
> > he and his mom were demanding.  He left the outpost and chose to work at
> > McDonalds on Wed nights.   It was his choice.  I very much so encouraged
> > him to stick it out. He was young he had time and very likely could earn
> > this award.
> >
> > Why we reduced the GMA to 12 I don't know.  What is left after GMA for a
> > boy?  Why must we push all this on a young man that has no seasoning?
If
> > you take a board freshly cut and you don't let it season or adjust it
> > will warp and twist.  I feel very strongly that this is also true for
> > young men.  The numbers game is man's game.  God's plan is for each one
> > of us.  If we were bricks then line us up and get those numbers counted
> > up...but we are referred to stones each one a little bit different and
> > requires the masons hand to place us exactly where we need to go.  My
two
> > cents.  Yours may vary.
> >
> > Mark Jones
> >
> > On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:13:39 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > The Pioneer is moving up to Trailblazers soon.  He is wearing 15
> > > merits on
> > > his chest, including Bible, Physical Fitness, Citizenship, etc.  His
> > > Pioneer
> > > Commander Daddy says "He's just a couple of months from earning his
> > > GMA".
> > > But...
> > >
> > > You _know_ the requirements for many merits have been superficially
> > > adhered
> > > to at best.
> > >
> > > You _know_ that Mama and Daddy have been lenient in signing things
> > > off.
> > >
> > > You are _not_ the Senior Commander.
> > >
> > > You _are_ the Trailblazer commander.
> > >
> > > What do you do, if anything?
> > >
> > > Of course, this is PURELY a hypothetical situation! <G>
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