--- Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about the other issues I remember When I was growing up that we were > taught to respect the American Flag. > I remember being taught that NOTHING was to fly higher than "Old > Glory".
Affirm- *Except the Church pennent flies above the Ensign on USNaval warships underway during church call<G> -=A=- > So where do we get off by placing the Ranger emblem over the American > Flag. > Sure we should be proud of the Ranger Emblem and what it stands for ... > I think we might want to check the ranger code does it not to respect > our leaders and those in authority. The American Flag is not to soul property of a political party selected or Elected to represent us in total.. *It is the symbol of the American people, our land and it's heritage. *It is your flag if you are an American and your duty to do right by it. > This also means that proper respect for ones own Country and its > heritage > Boy that can take the discussion a long way in EITHER DIRECTION can't > it. *preach on.. > The question to me still remains the same why is the RR emblem over the > Flag? > I was once told it was because GPH already had tons of shirts made and > it would cost them too much to make the change. > HELLO should we not teach the boys the right thing or should we just do > things being controlled by how much it would cost. > One of the reasons that I was given when I was a boy to give the > American Flag the Proper RESPECT > was because of all of the people that died to make America FREE & PROUD. HooYah- *But American values are NOT the main thing for Royal Rangers! The Main thing.. is Jesus Christ risen and Lord of all. He don't change.. so we had best get used to it<G> -=A=- > > This is my thoughts on the matter if anyone doesn't agree that's ok this > is > AMERICA and you entitled to your opinion too. > > Frank " Bigg Dawgg " Schaeffer > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ebible.org> > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 5:16 PM > Subject: Re: [RR] he US Flag patch: Blind Patriotism versus Christian > common sense > > > > I hear you brother and I understand your concern. I too would like to > have > > seen the Christian Flag there as well. However, and I'm not certain > about > > this though that could raise a lot of unwanted controversies as well > and not > > just with the non-Christians but with the Brothers and Sisters in the > other > > denominations who have no clue what the Rangers are or do. Most of the > > Protestant denominations appear to be using this flag to represent > > themselves as fellow Christians and there are presently no variations > of it > > from what I have seen so far. Nothing there to represent a nationality > or > > anything like that because God is more concerned with the person, not > where > > he's from. God put him where he's from. What I think would be in > order is > > an explanation of the train of thought behind why it was selected to > on the > > uniform. For me personally, I think that it could serve a purpose at > > national Camporama where there are Rangers from other countries there > as a > > means of identification, but Even there, you would just about die from > the > > heat if you had to wear the khakis the whole time. > > This new program is still not 100% tried and true. If you feel that > way > > about it , start a petition or something at your level,(being the > church > > level) then bring it to the section, if they agree with it take right > up > > your chain of command and let District Cmdr deal with it. From what I > have > > seen, District Cmdr does have a say in the matter. He will go to > regional > > with it and if several of the Districts come on board with it, it will > start > > to make changes. > > I don't know if it could work like this under the new program or > not, I am > > not able to recall a precedent for it (doesn't mean there wasn't one) > I > > think that would have worked under the old program. One other thought, > don't > > be the lone ranger on it, it will carry more weight if you and several > more > > Cmdrs are united on it. > > > > Just my thoughts from the peanut gallery. > > > > Iron Mike > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 2:36 PM > > Subject: [RR] he US Flag patch: Blind Patriotism versus Christian > common > > sense > > > > > > > I've been trying to restrain myself but because of recent events in > our > > country and comments by other Royal Ranger Commanders I can no longer > hold > > this back: > > > > > > I'm going to discuss two kinds of Christians views regarding the > American > > Flag patch. The first view is what I see many Christians having, and > that > > is "when I look at the American flag I see how the United States USED > to be > > and how it SHOULD be." Then there is the other Christian view: "When > I see > > the American flag patch I see how the United states IS and how it WILL > be." > > The latter in my opinion is that of a realist while the privious is > that of > > an idealist. Let's face the reality according to the BIBLE, the > United > > States is getting more and more morally corrupt not to mention > > anti-Christian (just look at the news and compare it to the last 10 to > 20 > > years) and is only going to get worse until Jesus returns and when > that day > > comes there will be no United States of America instead there will be > a one > > world government ruled by Jesus Christ. So we can either countinue to > live > > in the past and talk about what ifs for the rest of our lives or we > can > > except the fact that the U! > > > nited States of America will eventually become part of the > Antichrist's > > one world government. > > > > > > It is because of this that I am against the MANDATORY wearing of an > > American flag on my uniform. I understand that many rangers perfer to > stay > > in their "comfort zone" but I'm not one of them so why should I have > to be > > forced to wear the American flag. Why couldn't the national office > have > > made the flag patch OPTIONAL like the Boy Scouts of America? I look > forward > > to the future, to a world ruled by Christ which is why I tried to > submit a > > proposed Christian flag patch (which was REJECTED by the way). 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