Stefan Fischer wrote: > Hi Rangers, > > > In 1942 my Dad declared CO (*coniciencious objection status) > That is what leads you to community services in Germany. In Germany 1942 CO status could get you shot right? *For my Dad it led to verbal abuse and discrimination, and association with Seventh Day Adventist objectors... As the war progressed more came to understand that his objection was compartmentalized, and he was selected for the medics first as a litter bearer later as supply sergeant. That was WW2 and the 1940's and the world was a very different place. Verbal abuse, slander and negitive training was common. In the early sixties we taught marksmanship to the Outpost... and my Dad bought himself a .22 repeater and for me a single shot Savage .22 with iron sights. At home I got the standard "plus" lecture about gun safety, and it led me to think that my Dad just plain didn't like shooting... *Lucky for me.. Cdr.Hank of OP22 was a genuine Gun Nut<G> and the Instructor we had in rangers told us how poor of shots the VC were... he had read that in American Rifleman and that genuine USA boys had a natural ability to shoot straight. That is not true...BTW > Little... and I mean zip point zero was said about objection to Military > > service, > > in my AG church. from what I understood declareing CO status would not > > bring condemnation or support by your fellowship of belevers as some > faiths > > provide. > I don't think german churches would condemn you if you go to the Army but > from my personal experience I know there's not too much acceptance by the > believers. However doing your community services is 'the way a christian > should go.' For example my father didn't even like the idea of his son > serving in the Army. Noone of my relatives showed up when we did our > official oath. Wow! That is a refreshing thought.. American Christians feel that the US military is a conservitive establishment and service in the armed forces should be Honored... *My AG Pastor showed at my Bootcamp training graduation! A lot of "pro-military thinking is inside US Royal Rangers" and alturnitives have not been publicized as in the "Peace Corps" > > > Have you watched "Saving private Ryan"? I have watched it in my army > uniform(afterwards people looked at me very strange). The one thing I know > from that movie is that I don't want to be in a war like that. Of course, however there are times where we are tested in other ways.. and our pledge requires us to stand and testify for our Lord and savior. Mitch Silvers had one day of war like that... Jan 25th 1968 at a river mouth village in QuanTri provence Vietnam. Mitch knew somewhat of what he faced, and thankfully he made sure his heart was right with the Lord. US Rangers are proud of Mitch Silvers, though we wish he were here today with us! Though he was killed- he followed his orders and friends and did his duty to country, and made sure he was right with his God.. > > > > *Moral conviction sometimes leads to un-popular standards one must take. > > The research isn't that hard but the result may be.. In extream cases some > have > > gone to prision. > Yes. Some years ago (when you still had do defend your position orally) > there surely were people who were sent to prison because they refused > service in the Army. Nowadays it is much simpler to get CO status. So today > only people who also refuse to do their community services are sent to > prison. *Wow... I'd like to hear more reasons why a Christian would choose community service over military service.. that cultureal difference is interesting.. Many American youth *girls and *boys could gain from a tour of service in some community... It would be a life changeing experiance in growing up. Cdr.Duane Wheeler > > > Allzeit bereit f�r Jesus, > Fani > Pioneer-Cmdr > OP #78 M�tzingen/Germany -- ��ࡱ�
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