Not exactly sticking to the subject but well said none-the-less.
"Royal Rangers is not a place for Frustrated Evangelists"- is a quote that I
am reminded of here. And I agree. But how about honest answers to the
questions I raised? Thanks.
>From: Duane Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: clint grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [RR] A line of thought
>Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 14:06:23 -0800
>
>*Prepare the rope to hang this renagade...
>
>But I agree with the Parent who would be disappointed if
>RR had pushed for his son to become baptized without his
>pressence or permission.
>
>We don't need to re-invent the program to know that it's
>gotten off course from the founders intent. RR had started
>with offering a "balance" and promotion of the "whole boy"
>and his exploration of "Life" and occupational development
>through lay ministry and merits...
>
>*Just a FCF went too far on fraternity, and was roped in..
>
>I'd like some of you rascals to consider not becomeing the primary
>spiritual councilor, minister, pastor to your Ranger boys.. but to re-think
>what the true role of "Commander" is...
>
>For every lecture about "delveing deeper into the bible" balance it with
>an equal amonut of encouagement to raise the GPA of the boys school
>work, and a healthy lesson in sportsmanship.
>
>RR was intended to *Promote the boys to explore... and *Discover truth
>rather than to have a Bible bounced off the head and 2 hours of sitting in
>a steel samsonite chair!
>
>
>
>Thanks-
>-=A=-
>
>clint grant wrote:
>
> > Please allow me to present to you Rangernetters this line of thought,
> > seeing that you are no strangers to controversy and debate:
> > The bible says to baptize. (Matt. 28:19) The purpose of Royal Rangers
>is
> > pretty much synonymous with this command. Reach, teach and keep boys for
> > Christ. Yet, at Camps, we don't baptize, and it has been my observation,
> > over the last two years, that most of the boys we lead to Christ have
>not
> > been baptized, nor has much effort been made to do so.
> > Are we obeying the great commission in full?
> > The reasoning behind NOT baptizing seems to be that someone (namely
> > parents) will be offended. True, some parents have thier
>children
> > to be baptized. I personally know of three young people whom I have led
>to
> > Christ in these last two years whose parents have refused to let them be
> > baptized.
> > While discussing this with some other commanders the other night, one
>said
> > that he would be disturbed if his son came home from a camp and had been
> > baptized without his knowledge. This line of thinking disturbs me, in
>that
> > we live in a country in which our children, at any age, can go to a
>clinic
> > and get birth control without our knowledge.
> > So are we obeying God, or man? Are we afraid to obey God because of
>man? A
> > generation ago, even a few years ago, we would have thought nothing of
> > baptizing kids at a youth camp. Why don't we do it now? Are we going to
>stop
> > sharing Christ with boys because thier parents don't want us to?
>Remember
> > the Jewish boy's parents who sued the baptist church? Would Peter, James
>and
> > John have followed our line of thinking?
> > Are we on the right track? Where is this track going to take us two
>years
> > from now? Ten years from now?
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