"The ACLU, Willis added, (Kent Willis- ACLU) isn't opposed to the Boy Scouts
or their right to exist. "The ACLU's concern here is with the government
funding of the Boy Scouts so long as there is a religious test to be a
member of the Boy Scouts."
But Carpenter believes there's much more at stake.
"The youth of today really need the Scouts, [and] they need the support of
government," he said. "And to have somebody telling them that what you
believe in is bad because other people don't believe in it, it just doesn't
sit well with a lot of my guys."
Since when did the Scouts have a religious test?
And let me tell you Chesterfield is an upscale community, very diverse in
it's population, there are not just Christian folk there, there are all
kinds.
Try reading this: http://www.aclj.org/news/Read.aspx?ID=71
Iron Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "JenEd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:51 AM
Subject: RE: [RR] RE: girls in rangers?
This story may be bit encouraging and I remember listening to this on the
radio last year. Scouts sell $28,000 of popcorn in booth near ACLU
Virginia
Headquarters. Last year their fundraiser brought in less than $300. Keep
in
mind Ranger programs are supported by churches and receive a built in
support network with that church body. We have it easy at our churches.
Any
association/ company having anything to do with the scouts is being sued.
They can't even find places to meet in some instances.
popcorn article:
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_Ba
sicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031779729194
-E
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RR] RE: girls in rangers?
I know this. I am just showing how run amuck this separation of church
and
state has really degenerated to. Rangers pull it off every four years
without Federal bucks, I'm sure that they will be able to adapt. Who knows
maybe Rangers might even be able to help them! I felt bad for them when I
heard this.
Iron Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Triphahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jose Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:43 AM
Subject: RE: [RR] RE: girls in rangers?
Mike,
They are not a religious organization but they keep God in their pledge.
This displeases those who look for every angle to take God out of
everyday
life (and government).
Just another attack - need to pray through it :-)
Bob Triphahn
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:29 PM
To: Jose Rodriguez; Ken Komoto; dperich; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RR] RE: girls in rangers?
The Boy Scouts were just denied the Federal money to assist in their
Jamboree because separation of Church and State issues were cited. Fort
A.P. Hill is still allowed to be the place of the Jamboree, but the
military
will not assist in Federal dollars anymore in making it happen. I didn't
know the BSA was a church and if so when did that happen?
Iron Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jose Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ken Komoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "dperich"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:42 PM
Subject: RE: [RR] RE: girls in rangers?
I mean the WHOLE Boy Scout program. The tiger cubs, cub scouts, Weblos,
and
Boy Scouts still don't allow girls.
The current state of the Explorer Scouts is a result of the "older boy
problem" that has also plegued the Royal Ranger program (AST Rangers,
Challengers, and now Expedition Rangers). The Boy Scouts (like us) have
tried many different programs to try to solve the "older boy problem"
such
as the Sea Scouts, Air Scouts, Explorer Scouts, and Venture Scouts. The
BSA
basically felt that the best way to get more teen interested in scouting
is
if the Explorer scouts would allow girls (since that is one of the big
interests of a teenage boy). The "girl factor" is one of the reasons
why
you see more teenage boys perferring youth group over rangers.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken Komoto
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:57 PM
To: Jose Rodriguez; dperich; [email protected]
Subject: [RR] RE: girls in rangers?
But they already do! The Explorer Scouts program is a fully integrated
coed program...
At 03:46 PM 7/15/2005 -0400, Jose Rodriguez wrote:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The day that girls are
accepted
into the Royal Rangers is the day that the BSA accepts girls.
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Kenneth Komoto, Commander mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adventure Rangers Outpost 193 Phone: (530)752-7197
Southpointe Christian Center Fax : (530)752-0329
Sacramento, Ca 95828 Cell : (530)867-6158
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