Sure the BSA requires boys to believe in God: Tiger Cub Promise: "I promise to love God, my family, and my country and to learn about the world." Cub Scout Promise: "I (name) promise to do my best, to do my duty to God and my country, to help other people, and to obey the Law of the Pack." Boy Scout Oath: On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; to help other people at all times; to keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight. "Leadership is restricted to qualified adults who subscribe to the Declaration of Religious Principle, the Scout Oath, and the Scout Law..." -- from BSA "methods and practices" advisory for parents. Cdr Jeff --Grace to all who love our Lord Jesus Christ with an undying love. Eph 6:29 "You do not have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." -C. S. Lewis
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 6:38 AM To: JenEd; [email protected] Subject: Re: [RR] RE: girls in rangers? "The ACLU, Willis added, (Kent Willis- ACLU) isn't opposed to the Boy Scouts or their right to exist. "The ACLU's concern here is with the government funding of the Boy Scouts so long as there is a religious test to be a member of the Boy Scouts." But Carpenter believes there's much more at stake. "The youth of today really need the Scouts, [and] they need the support of government," he said. "And to have somebody telling them that what you believe in is bad because other people don't believe in it, it just doesn't sit well with a lot of my guys." Since when did the Scouts have a religious test? And let me tell you Chesterfield is an upscale community, very diverse in it's population, there are not just Christian folk there, there are all kinds. Try reading this: http://www.aclj.org/news/Read.aspx?ID=71 Iron Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "JenEd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 8:51 AM Subject: RE: [RR] RE: girls in rangers? > This story may be bit encouraging and I remember listening to this on the > radio last year. Scouts sell $28,000 of popcorn in booth near ACLU > Virginia > Headquarters. Last year their fundraiser brought in less than $300. Keep > in > mind Ranger programs are supported by churches and receive a built in > support network with that church body. We have it easy at our churches. > Any > association/ company having anything to do with the scouts is being sued. > They can't even find places to meet in some instances. > > popcorn article: > http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_Ba > sicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031779729194 > > -E > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:27 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [RR] RE: girls in rangers? > > > I know this. I am just showing how run amuck this separation of church > and > state has really degenerated to. Rangers pull it off every four years > without Federal bucks, I'm sure that they will be able to adapt. Who knows > maybe Rangers might even be able to help them! I felt bad for them when I > heard this. > > Iron Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Triphahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jose Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:43 AM > Subject: RE: [RR] RE: girls in rangers? > > >> Mike, >> >> They are not a religious organization but they keep God in their pledge. >> This displeases those who look for every angle to take God out of >> everyday >> life (and government). >> >> Just another attack - need to pray through it :-) >> >> Bob Triphahn >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:29 PM >> To: Jose Rodriguez; Ken Komoto; dperich; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [RR] RE: girls in rangers? >> >> >> The Boy Scouts were just denied the Federal money to assist in their >> Jamboree because separation of Church and State issues were cited. Fort >> A.P. Hill is still allowed to be the place of the Jamboree, but the >> military >> will not assist in Federal dollars anymore in making it happen. I didn't >> know the BSA was a church and if so when did that happen? >> >> Iron Mike >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jose Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Ken Komoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "dperich" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:42 PM >> Subject: RE: [RR] RE: girls in rangers? >> >> >>>I mean the WHOLE Boy Scout program. The tiger cubs, cub scouts, Weblos, >>>and >>> Boy Scouts still don't allow girls. >>> >>> The current state of the Explorer Scouts is a result of the "older boy >>> problem" that has also plegued the Royal Ranger program (AST Rangers, >>> Challengers, and now Expedition Rangers). The Boy Scouts (like us) have >>> tried many different programs to try to solve the "older boy problem" >>> such >>> as the Sea Scouts, Air Scouts, Explorer Scouts, and Venture Scouts. The >>> BSA >>> basically felt that the best way to get more teen interested in scouting >>> is >>> if the Explorer scouts would allow girls (since that is one of the big >>> interests of a teenage boy). The "girl factor" is one of the reasons >>> why >>> you see more teenage boys perferring youth group over rangers. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken Komoto >>> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:57 PM >>> To: Jose Rodriguez; dperich; [email protected] >>> Subject: [RR] RE: girls in rangers? >>> >>> >>> But they already do! The Explorer Scouts program is a fully integrated >>> coed program... >>> >>> At 03:46 PM 7/15/2005 -0400, Jose Rodriguez wrote: >>>>I've said it before and I'll say it again: The day that girls are >>>>accepted >>>>into the Royal Rangers is the day that the BSA accepts girls. >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> Kenneth Komoto, Commander mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Adventure Rangers Outpost 193 Phone: (530)752-7197 >>> Southpointe Christian Center Fax : (530)752-0329 >>> Sacramento, Ca 95828 Cell : (530)867-6158 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> The Golden Rule is my daily rule. >>> >>> To send mail to everyone on the RangerNet mailing list, send it to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only list members may post. >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit >>> http://lists.rangernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rangernet >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> The Golden Rule is my daily rule. >>> >>> To send mail to everyone on the RangerNet mailing list, send it to >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only list members may post. >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit >>> http://lists.rangernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rangernet >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The Golden Rule is my daily rule. >> >> To send mail to everyone on the RangerNet mailing list, send it to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only list members may post. >> To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit >> http://lists.rangernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rangernet >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> The Golden Rule is my daily rule. >> >> To send mail to everyone on the RangerNet mailing list, send it to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only list members may post. >> To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit >> http://lists.rangernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rangernet >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > The Golden Rule is my daily rule. > > To send mail to everyone on the RangerNet mailing list, send it to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only list members may post. > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > http://lists.rangernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rangernet > > _______________________________________________ > > The Golden Rule is my daily rule. > > To send mail to everyone on the RangerNet mailing list, send it to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Only list members may post. > To subscribe or unsubscribe, please visit > http://lists.rangernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rangernet > > > _______________________________________________ The Golden Rule is my daily rule. 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