And to think I was working on my gas log grill for the next gathering :-)
-----Original Message----- From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 11:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [RR] Safety and numbers. Here's my guess for an answer: Native Eskimos and Inuits still hunt whale while the rest of us can't. It's a cultural thing. So, it would be the same way trying to reenact 1800's mountain man ways. Should they use gas logs? No way! David Perich -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Triphahn Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 12:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [RR] Safety and numbers. Howdy Folks, If the campfires at Camporama are such a big safety deal / liability, then why do we have them at National FCF Rendezvous? This is a National Event held at Eagle Rock :-) Food for thought? Blessings, Bob Triphahn -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Jones Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RR] Safety and numbers. This next year will be my third time at Camporama. Neither of the two previous times were too dry for campfires. Its a safety thing. I don't blame them one bit. I would do the same thing if I was in charge. It just makes good sense with that many people and no real need for a campfire as all meals are provided during the regular days. Don't get me wrong. I love campfires. If its approved we have a campfire. Mark Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [RR] Safety and numbers. I thought no "ground" fires were allowed at Camporama, and that was because it is usually so dry out there. Many National and State parks do the same. My understanding was that you could have a fire if your brought one of those off the ground fire rings, but who wants to go to that trouble. Besides, there really isn't much time and too tired at night anyway. We brought a grill in 2002, and that was just for Sunday night meal. Not sure we will even do that next year. I remember the storm that went through in 2002, even being there, didn't know anyone got hurt. Dave Swain Senior Commander Outpost 89 Bethel Assembly of God Martinsburg, WV NE Sectional Deputy Commander Potomac District ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Jones<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:44 PM Subject: [RR] Safety and numbers. We had a So MO boy struck by lightning at Camporama 3 years ago. Those nice metal poles that we use to hold up tarps that shade us from the sun do make a nice lightning rod. The boy went home early but had no ill effects other than shucks Gus it hurts to get hit by lightning. I would rather chance the lighting than get sun stroke in those July days. Every time you get a bunch of people together someone is going to trip slip or fall or not drink water or not go to the bathroom or eat too much or eat food that wasn't properly stored or cooked... or as we all know the list goes on and on. Working around power lines on a daily basis it would surprise you just how ignorant people are. A lot of people are killed each year from downed power lines or inadvertently coming in contact with them. I have seen people do some very very very dangerous things and not give it a second thought. Joe public just because he puts on a ranger emblem or a boyscout emblem on his shirt doesn't automatically make him wiser than Joe Public. Ever wondered why they don't allow camp fires at camporama? They don't want the accidents that are associated with the whole process of gathering, cutting, hauling and then the fire is the last great "We don't want the liability of it all".... Stuff happens that is why we need to be READY for Anything. That includes anything. Even the best prepared plans can go bad when they go bad. It's life. We as Royal Rangers do have a Advocate that does keep us from many of these unforeseen things in most cases not all. Stay prayed up and walk in the Anointing of the Holy Ghost and be ready for anything and do the best you can. That is all God really asks of us any way. Mark Jones p.s. I just got back from a trip to the Colorado mountains. Tent camped at 9k elevation and went up to 12 k elevations. It was BEEEUUUTIFULLLL. John Denver was playing in the back ground. I did stay a few nights in a airconditioned camper on the way there and back. It's nice to be home! ----- Original Message ----- From: "noel j bell jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 6:01 PM Subject: [RR] > Is it just me, or does it appear Boy Scouts is becoming unsafe? > Four deaths in one week, come on. Why on earth would anyone sit up a tent > near a power line anyway? > Your not going to tell three out three leaders didn't know a power line > was there. > Then there was the recent deal about a Boy Scout being struck by lighting. > If some scout leaders are that dumb why are they leading boys? > Are we doing much better in Rangers? > > Noel"Spirit Rider"Bell > > > noel j bell jr > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > EarthLink Revolves Around You. > _______________________________________________ > > The Golden Rule is my daily rule. > > To send mail to everyone on the RangerNet mailing list, send it to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. 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