The Scouts weren't putting up the tent by themselves. Actually, they weren't even supposed to be putting it up at all. A tent company was hired to do the job. The company was apparently short on manpower and asked if some of the scout leaders would help. Now, here's some guessing on my part... I would imagine that while the scout leaders were holding on to the pole, the official tent erectors were holding on to some lines attached to the top of it or onto the tent fabric attached to it. Somebody probably made the mistake of pulling the tent fabric, or a line, at the wrong time. What a mistake to live with!
I'm wondering what a high voltage line was doing hanging so low. Usually, with events like that, the power lines are laying on the ground with thick rubber insulation (I think). Maybe these were too high voltage for that. Maybe the lines were just temporary for the event, also. Regardless, we'll all be taking notes to insure safety in future events. There was also a problem with boys becoming overheated. Someone said they should have had misting tents and should have made personal fans available. I know they take care to make sure boys don't get overheated at Camporama. The ACLU lawsuit, by the way, was because the Scouts require the boys to believe in God, although it isn't their primary focus. David Perich -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Swain Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RR] God Bless the BSA I haven't read all the articles covered every where, but from what I have heard my understanding is that they were not under a power line (like the first picture that I saw looked like). They were camping next to it and lost control of the pole while setting it up (guess that is why 4 of them were holding it). Although that was along the line of my first reaction, lets take a step back and think about this. They have been there since what the 1980's and this has never happened. Because of the ACLU and their lawsuit they don't have the support of the Army like they use too. I know going to Sectional, District, and even Camporama, when setting up, things get rushed. At Camporama there is like what 5,000, the Boy Scouts have what 40,000? That is a big difference and a lot of confusion going on. I'm willing to say that no Boy Scout will ever put anything up again without looking around. Willing to say that none of us ever will either. Seems like a remember a few years back that a Ranger fell while repelling, a Commander followed him down to help and both ended up dieing. Does that mean that Rangers isn't safe anymore? Repelling or rock climbing isn't safe anymore? I don't mean to diminish either tragic accident and the deep pains they have caused many, but by comparison, the Rangers loosing 2 is a much higher percentage then Boy Scouts loosing 4. Accidents are going to happen, we need to pray and try to learn and be as safe as we always can. I also think we need to support the Boy Scouts as brothers. Help them out when we can, I've even thought about going on a joint campout with a troop and helping each other out. I know from surfing the net for different topics that the Boy Scouts have many things we as Rangers use. Maybe we could learn a few things from them, teach them a few, especially around the campfire at night with a council fire. Dave Swain Senior Commander Outpost 89 Bethel Assembly of God Martinsburg, WV NE Sectional Deputy Commander Potomac District ----- Original Message ----- From: Jose Rodriguez<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: RE: [RR] I was wondering about that myself. I don't understand how this could have happened. When we camp (whether sectional, district, or national) we camp out either in the woods or an open field but never near power lines. But then again I've only heard about this by word of mouth and radio so I should probably wait until I get more info before I can give any opinions regarding this tragedy. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of noel j bell jr Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 7:02 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [RR] Is it just me, or does it appear Boy Scouts is becoming unsafe? Four deaths in one week, come on. Why on earth would anyone sit up a tent near a power line anyway? Your not going to tell three out three leaders didn't know a power line was there. Then there was the recent deal about a Boy Scout being struck by lighting. If some scout leaders are that dumb why are they leading boys? Are we doing much better in Rangers? 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