I don't really want to get involved, IANAL, however...

Razor does not block e-mail, users and ISPs block e-mail.  If some of the
EFF's customers choose to use Razor to filter their mail, that is their
business.  If an end-user's ISP chooses to use Razor, then the customer
has the alternative to turn it off (or if they can't, choose another ISP).

Let me say that I support the EFF, and I think they provide a valuable
service to the community.  I have no doubt that the EFF's list is
legitimate, and I think it's ridiculous that someone is reporting their
e-mail to the Razor DB.  Unfortunately that is the way Razor works, and
these customers are choosing to use it. You can't complain that you don't
get wet after you open an umbrella.

This argument comes up regularly on just about every ISP or mail related
list I've ever been on (I usually don't get involved).  Such and such is
blocking my legitimate e-mail, and one of my customer's uses that service
and doesn't want our e-mail blocked.  There is a very, very simple
solution that I'm sure involves a procmail recipe, or an rm -r.

Regards,

Adam Maloney
Systems Administrator
Sihope Communications

On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Marc Perkel wrote:

> One of our board members - John Gillmore - (If you've heard of the "alt" 
> news groups - John started alt and is one of the founders of EFF.) -
> 
> John says:
> 
> Our stated policy is that antispam measures' first goal should be to
> deliver every non-spam message to its destination.  A particular
> ramification of that is that if 26,000 EFFector subscribers ASKED to
> get a message, and three did not, then delivery to that 26,000 should
> NEVER be interrupted or blocked.  I.e. the same message can be "spam"
> to one person, and a desired communication to another.  A blocking
> measure which cannot tell WITH RESPECT TO A PARTICULAR RECIPIENT
> whether a message is "spam" or "desired" should never block it.
> 
> Here's that micro-management demand from: Adam Goryachev:
> 
>  >> I therefore formally request that the EFF show the public verifiable
>  >> evidence of each and every member of their newsletter having
>  >> requested to be on their mailing list. If you can't demonstrate that
>  >> EFF has verified every subscription address then the fault is with
>  >> the EFF and it should be blacklisted by anyone and everyone, and the
>  >> EFF is irresponsible. I am not interested in guesses and theories
>  >> that they "might" have subscribed themselves because they entered
>  >> some public knowledge data. I want to see the evidence.
> 
> 
> I suggest that our response to this particular demand should be a
> hearty "fuck you".
> 
>       John
> 
> 
> 
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