FYI, the Surly Black Floyd semi-slicks apparently aren't much faster than
Knards.  The 3.5" Vee Speedsters are faster.  I have a friend that rides a
SS fat bike on those tires all summer, and I ride a related tire (Mk2) in
2.1" on my Schwinn KOM.

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 4:00 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Good information.  I've ridden one 26" LHT but it was one size too small
> and stock (ie, skinny tires and drop bars) so that ride really didn't tell
> me a whole lot about the bike as I would set it up.  Your comment about
> choosing the Pugs over the LHT is interesting.  I would love to test ride a
> Pugs with the Black Floyd street tires on it.  I'm torn between a lively
> bike and a comfortable bike.  Right now I'm riding a 90's Trek Multitrack
> converted to 26" wheels and I find myself wondering how it compares to an
> LHT.  The front-end geometry is the same and the chainstays are 3cm
> shorter.  However, the top tube is smaller than the other main tubes so the
> ride may be totally different than the LHT.  I'm worried that I'll buy an
> LHT and then not like it.  I will say my 92 Rockhopper has an oversized top
> tube and I liked the ride of it but who knows how that compares to an LHT.
>
>
>
> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 2:34:20 PM UTC-6, Bob Cook wrote:
>>
>> I have an LHT with 26" wheels. It is indeed a capable bike. You can load
>> it like a mule and it will ride fine. I've ridden mine on packed dirt,
>> gravel, packed sand, and grassy, pot-holed double-track. No problems,
>> though it's not my first choice—or my second, or my third—for those
>> surfaces if load-bearing isn't required.
>>
>> Why? It rides like that mule. It's a pain for climbing and riding into a
>> stiff wind. I'd rather ride my Pugsley into a 25-MPH headwind than my LHT.
>> (I'd rather ride my Homer than either, but Homer does not see winter road
>> salt.)
>>
>> If the numbers I've gathered from various sources are correct, the tubing
>> dimensions of the Atlantis are more like the Cross-Check (9-6-9 28.6 mm TT)
>> than the LHT (8-5-8 *31.8 mm* TT). If you want something that rides more
>> like an Atlantis, I imagine an old MTB with skinnier tubes, or at least
>> with a skinner TT than DT, would be your best bet.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Cook
>>
>> On Friday, January 9, 2015 at 9:44:05 AM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone have any thoughts on positives or negatives associated with
>>> choosing a 26" LHT versus a 90's MTB, like a Stumpjumper or Rockhopper?
>>>
>>> I'm familiar with the geometry differences between the two and I will be
>>> using modern components (except for stem if I go vintage) so I'm interested
>>> in things like ride quality, the impact of the tubing used in each, etc....
>>>
>>> This will be an all-rounder bike that is primarily ridden on pavement
>>> with the option to ride on packed dirt, gravel and even double track.  I
>>> have no interest in single-track or "mountain biking" as it currently
>>> exists.
>>>
>>> Riv content is that my bike project is directly inspired by the 56cm
>>> Atlantis but I don't have the finances to go that route.  I also know there
>>> is a vast amount of experience with this type of bike here.
>>>
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