> show me a fine tigged bike with Riv geo, Riv aesthetics, threaded > fork, tallish headtube, lightweight tubing, cantis, and rack > brazeons...in the $700 price range. oh yeah, i've come to appreciate > a kickstand mounting plate too.
Aesthetics is another way of saying putting its name on the bike. We have mentioned many fine Tig welded machines. Bruce Gordon's BLT has the features you list and on a practical basis is a every bit a worthy competitor to the Atlantis. You can get one fully built for around $1400. People buy the Atlantis over the BLT because the Atlantis is lugged and lovely. Others have mentioned the very worthy Tigged offerings from Velo- Orange, Gunnar, Kogswell. All have the features you note at the price you want. AntBikes and the Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road are not so cheap as the Taiwan built Tigs, but they are very nice and distinctive. If Riv were to go the route you suggest, they would not even be making the best available product in the market segment. On Dec 11, 11:13 am, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote: > show me a fine tigged bike with Riv geo, Riv aesthetics, threaded > fork, tallish headtube, lightweight tubing, cantis, and rack > brazeons...in the $700 price range. oh yeah, i've come to appreciate > a kickstand mounting plate too. > > On Dec 11, 9:06 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > > > > > Grant is capable of changing though, isn't he. I think you are all > > > correct and he probably won't consider tig. > > > You need to throw father time in the mix. Grant has gone on record > > saying Riv ends when he retires. Grant is in his mid-50s. It seems > > counterintuitive to work a complete reversal of company philosophy for > > its last 10 years of existance. > > > > Really my ideal was to get the lightness, that geo, quill, rear rack > > > brazeons, canti/vbrakes, in a $700-$1000 price > > > point. And I thought off shore and tigged was a good formula. > > > I have yet to see a cogent example of what, other than putting the > > Rivendell name on the downtube, Grant could do in this market that > > many other companies are already doing quite well. > > > On Dec 11, 10:02 am, eflayer <eddie.fla...@att.net> wrote: > > > > Grant is capable of changing though, isn't he. I think you are all > > > correct and he probably won't consider tig. But as I recall he both > > > never used to mention the weight of bikes, framesets and now look at > > > how he is discussing/selling the lightness of Roadeo. I know the > > > Roadeo fits the lugged mission, but here he is drifting toward the > > > lightness factor. Really my ideal was to get the lightness, that geo, > > > quill, rear rack brazeons, canti/vbrakes, in a $700-$1000 price > > > point. And I thought off shore and tigged was a good formula. > > > > I can easily let it go as my Fuji is all of that, but lacks some > > > pinache. > > > > On Dec 11, 7:52 am, "Frederick, Steve" <frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu> > > > wrote: > > > > > Bill Connell wrote, in part: > > > > > ...I applaud Grant's stubborn aesthetic sense; he has a cohesive vision > > > > for the company, and that strong visual identity is a huge asset... > > > > > Yeah, I think they'd stand to lose more than they gain if they wander > > > > too far from that vision. I recall in an early Reader, Grant talked > > > > about how you used to be able to tell a bike's brand by it's Lug > > > > design. That it was a signature of sorts. And how he hoped that in > > > > 100 years, someone could dig a Rivendell out of a trash heap, paint and > > > > decals gone, rusty and filthy and see the lugs and say "wow, this is a > > > > Rivendell!" > > > > > That matters to him and I suspect to most of us, too. > > > > > Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
