Matt, No doubt your height affects the feeling of any bike you ride. I was a tad surprised at your statement that 61 and 62 cm frames fit you. My surprise is related to my recent experience purchasing an MIT Atlantis. I already own both a Homer (59 cm) and a Simpleton (58 cm) and thought, naturally, that the 59 cm MIT Atlantis would be perfect, especially since I love virtually everything about my Homer. In a word, I was WRONG. With the more stretched out geometry of the MIT Atlantis and the greater angle of the top tube, It turns out I had erred when I purchased a 59 cm Atlantis (from a fellow lister who cry kindly returned by payment before I received the frame). I would note that I love the look of the 59 cm MIT Atlantis with its arched double top tube. Alas, a slightly less beautiful 55 cm (700c), which I am assured is spot on for size, is being built up for me. I can't wait to get it, ride it and see whether I no longer look to my Homer as my daily driver. Good luck.
Steve Cole Arlington, VA On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 2:39:03 PM UTC-7, Matt Dreher wrote: > > Fair, I was a bit rushed writing that. I think it's a sort of a modern > vernacular thing, using 'you' where one should really be using 'one.' This > should make it clearer. > > *I don't buy the line that wheelbase doesn't affect handling > significantly. I have an 90s road bike with 41cm stays that's exhausting to > spend a long while on. The handling feels significantly more confident to > me on that bike. I know that one can take the same lines but taking the > same line on the long-stayed bike requires a good bit more lean than the > other. It makes me a lot more hesitant to take corners as quickly on loose > surfaces. Of course once I've lost traction it's easier to control and > recover from skids with long chainstays but I'd rather not lose traction in > the first place.* > > > Something I've considered that may be coloring my perceptions: my height. > I'm 6'5", proportioned just so that 61 to 62cm frames are what fits me > right. Leaning further when one is tall must necessarily put more lateral > force on the tire, right? It seems that there's just more at stake when > your center of mass is further from the ground. Long wheelbases mean that > you necessarily must lean further. Maybe the confidence I feel on the SWB > bike is just a matter of not having to dig as far into my reserve of grip? > > On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 1:42:11 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: >> >> Hey Matt! I got confused in your middle paragraph. Too many pronouns that >> seem reversed of what I thought you were saying for me to follow. Would you >> mind clarifying please? >> >> I've not heard anyone say wheelbase doesn't affect handling, >> significantly or otherwise. The entire experience I've had with longer >> wheel base is significantly better handling. It DOES require adjustment and >> different lines. There may be a learning curve, but a sharp lad could >> easily suss that out and not need to slow down, and likely go yet faster if >> desired. Grin. >> >> With abandon, >> Patrick >> >> On Thursday, January 9, 2020 at 12:25:24 PM UTC-7, Matt Dreher wrote: >>> >>> I finally concluded that the chainstays on my 61 Roadini are just a hair >>> too long at 46cm. I'm not opposed to longer chainstays, it's just that it >>> would be nice if there were a Rivendell option other than the Roadeo that >>> had slightly more traditional road geometry. If they had capped it at 44cm >>> for the large sizes or specced horizontal dropouts to allow a bit of >>> adjustability I probably wouldn't have a real issue with it. >>> >>> I don't buy the line that wheelbase doesn't affect handling >>> significantly. I have an 90s road bike with 41cm stays that's exhausting to >>> spend a long while on. The handling feels significantly more confident to >>> me on that bike. I know that you can take the same lines but taking the >>> same line on the long-stayed bike requires a good bit more lean than the >>> other. It makes me a lot more hesitant to take corners as quickly on loose >>> surfaces. Of course once you've lost traction it's easier to control and >>> recover from skids with long chainstays but I'd rather not lose traction in >>> the first place, you know? >>> >>> As someone who adjusts their bars below the saddle I'm also not really >>> representative of the typical Rivendell rider, though. I suppose that at >>> this point complaining about no shorter-chainstay'd Rivendells is like >>> complaining that Cervelo doesn't have a steel option any more. Both >>> companies once had the option for it but the type of riders they're >>> intended for necessarily led them away from that. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0294af1d-b37f-4d76-b814-53c2869fb0b2%40googlegroups.com.
