A drop bar Roadini with 25mm tires will feel great. With 32mm tires it's 
not going to feel like a 1993 Bridgestone RB-1 with 700x23 tires! But you 
already knew that. I don't think there's anything disappointing about the 
Roadini's ride. I think the extra long chainstay takes away from the "stick 
up your butt" feel of shorter chainstay bikes but that's a feature not a 
bug. I think you cannot compare anything with modern sized tires to a road 
bike that was optimized for 23mm tires way back when. Now if you're looking 
for lightweight you shouldn't be looking at a Rivendell.

On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 6:14:40 PM UTC-7 brenton...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have really fallen for these luscious new Roadini builds I've seen at 
> Riv and Blue Lug.
>
> I have a Sam Hillborne and love it. It's been through several iterations 
> of cockpit/racks/bags/brakes/wheels/tires and all have been really fun. 
> Right now it has flat bars with sweep, chunky 47mm tires, and is an 
> excellent all around adventure/trail/camping ride. It's currently my only 
> bike!
>
> Before the Sam, I rode 90s road bikes exclusively for 20 years, and those 
> worked great for city/commuting/neighborhood/pub rides. I've heard that the 
> Roadini does NOT offer that kind of 
> ride/speed/feel/handling/gusto/whatever, from several folks in this group.
>
> So am I fooling myself into thinking another $2500 Riv build is going to 
> scratch the itch? Or should I buy a <$500 Japanese Road Bike that can hold 
> 33s and actually feel some performance?
>

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