Congrats, Johnny! Excited to see what you do with it.

On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 8:43:07 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The Roadini frames were in stock long enough to tempt me into getting one. 
> Dark gold one coming my way.
>
> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 7:49:40 AM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Garth, FWIW I really like those VO Grand Cru calipers. I replaced a set 
>> of Record 80's calipers/brake levers with Grand Crus and the TRP levers 
>> someone posted about recently and it's a combo I've been really happy 
>> with.If it matters, a number of years ago in *Bicycle Quarterly* Jan 
>> Heine did an extensive and favorable review of this brakeset ...not sure if 
>> it's available online or not. But to my mind they really work 
>> well...although I admit I don't live in the mountains. They're good-looking 
>> brakes as well.$175 per set does not seem unreasonable
>>
>> On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 6:18:36 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have no idea where the frames are being made or any of the other 
>>> particulars beyond what was printed by VO. Taiwan is likely of course as I 
>>> think that's where they have the majority of the business relationships. 
>>> I'm eager to try their Grand Cru calipers too. I've never used any caliper 
>>> besides a Suntour somethingoranother in the 70's and Campy Record of the 
>>> 80's. 
>>>
>>> The main difference with the VO and the Riv models is one of how the 
>>> rider is positioned over the BB. The VO is much more body forward, with a 
>>> steeper seat tube angle(73.5 vs. 72), and notably more reach and longer 
>>> font end. Also more fork rake, less trail, around 51 think, and a higher 
>>> BB, all of which suits me. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 5:42:04 PM UTC-4 jrst wrote:
>>>
>>> Garth, looks really nice. Are they made in Taiwan? Enjoy 
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 4:09 PM Garth  wrote:
>>>
>>> I pre-ordered the VO Rando today. Through the 6th the frames are 
>>> discounted 20% for pre-orders.  I hadn't even been aware of them. Road bike 
>>> heaven, Yippee ! 
>>>
>>> I finally got the drop bars on my Franklin and I had forgotten how much 
>>> I love riding them, so I'm going the exact opposite of what Riv is doing, 
>>> I'm all in on going back to pure road bikes. 
>>>
>>> https://velo-orange.com/products/rando-frameset
>>>
>>>
>>>

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