Doug -- I agree with this:

>> FWIW, I've been exploring this issue for
years and keep coming back to the same conclusion:  weight in front
first.

with a big old caveat: as long as the weight is on low riders, not above the 
wheel. Tubus Tara is my favorite. 

I'm going to build a "lasher" rack for my main camping/touring/s240 bike -- the 
idea is to haul heavy stuff up front, and to lash light bulky stuff (sleeping 
pad and bag) on the lasher rack, which will sit low and behind my rear axle.

John Speare
Spokane, WA
http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/

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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on 
behalf of dougP [dougpn...@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:08 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!

My Atlantis has always handled better with a front weight bias.  Just
last weekend I did an S24O with maybe 10 lbs per bag (tent in one,
sleeping bag in the other, misc clothes) and just tossing that onto
the rear was noticeable.  I had my front low riders on so had the
chance to move the same load to the other end on the same ride and
voila!  What a difference.  FWIW, I've been exploring this issue for
years and keep coming back to the same conclusion:  weight in front
first.

Very cool looking rack set-up, Esteban.  Glad it works out; looks like
heel strike wouldn't be an issue.

dougP

On Apr 11, 5:22 pm, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
> Seems to me Jim Thill posted a while ago that the new Atlantis chainstays
> were pretty long.  Enough so a 970 chain was just barely able to get around
> a similar setup.
>
> To Esteban - nice setup.  Never have tried a low panniers.  Don't have a
> rack equipped for it.  It looks nice on your Protovelo. Afraid the
> bags would pick up too much grime here in Minnesota.  Especially in the
> non-summer months.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:19:21 PM UTC-5, franklyn wrote:
>
> > How long is really the chainstay? Grant only wrote that some sizes will
> > have chainstays longer than 46cm. My wife's 1982 Trek 720 has a chainstay
> > of 47cm, and you can definitely see and feel that extra length. One place
> > where one experiences issue is chain length. A brand new SRAM 970 chain out
> > of package is not long enough for 46T chainring/32T large cog combination.
> > I was too lazy to lengthen the chain but tagging on a few more links, but
> > for now just told my wife not to shift to the Big-Big combination lest she
> > wants to break the derailleur.
>
> > Franklyn- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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