The Waterford and Taiwanese Hillbornes are quickly distinguished by the
appearance difference in the rear dropouts. The Taiwan bikes have forks
made by a Toyo trained fabricator, Waterfords are made locally, but they
look the same. Grant was clear that the quality from either location was
the same. Writing RBW for specific info on YOUR bike is a best bet to
satisfy your curiosity. That answer won't change how your bike rides which
you should already know if you like.

In adddition to the tubing info sheet that Cyclofiend Jim linked to
earlier, RBW published detailed tube specs for the Ram (Use the "Wayback"
archive to view April 2007 catalog pages) . They are all Toyo built with
Tohoku-Miyata tubing. Down tube and chain stays are heat treated. Tubes are
thinner walled than Atlantis.I suspect Hillborne has thicker wall tubing
than Ram, at least in the forks and stays.

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