Because it's fun to watch the histrionics: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavsss.htm
Cheers, David On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Joe Bernard <joerem...@gmail.com> wrote: > The thread was started by a person actually using the saddle, which is > where discussions of comfort come in. You are injecting politics into it, > then pretending you're not. I'm quite well versed in the tactics of > political debate on the internet, and know the semantics game. I'm done > with this. > > On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:56:21 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: > >> Arguing comfort or lack thereof of something one has never used is not >> disingenuous? >> >> Your argument is the lack of leather should lower the market value of the >> product. My response is to show there is in fact a significant market that >> values the lack of leather. >> >> Zappos, to name one large company, allows people to search its site for >> Vegan shoes. There are vegan restaurants throughout the world. Vegan is a >> mainstream commercially acceptable market. Vegan may have been political >> 10 years ago. In 2013 it is not. >> >> >> Matthew J >> Chicago, IL >> >> On Jun 18, 2013, at 10:35, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> *There are a growing number of prosperous vegans in the UK, US, EU, and >> of course India, who like nice things without dead animals in them. The >> majority is not yet enlightened, but we are growing and we are very willing >> to spend our money on products that don't need to kill an animal to make. >> * >> >> This was your response to me, which was the second time in this thread >> you had played this card. It is quite political, and saying "it's not >> political" is disingenuous. We are discussing the >> comfort/looks/price/**marketability >> of the Brooks Cambium. The politics is not necessary. >> >> On Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:07:23 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: >> >>> Apparently you have not been following the earlier discussions on the >>> Cambium. >>> >>> Yes, mainstream saddles are frequently plastic. I and others interested >>> in leather free alternatives to quality Brooks and Berthoud saddles have >>> said and this and other bicycle forums that the plastic saddles all tend to >>> be both be horribly uncomfortable and have a short life span. >>> >>> The Brooks Cambium - which is not plastic, by the way - gives hope there >>> may be an alternative. I know many cyclists who avoid animal products >>> (politically neutral enough for you?) that are looking forward to finally >>> having a quality, leather free saddle that can provide lasting comfortable >>> rides. >>> >>> Maybe the Cambium will not be that product. Maybe it will. I expect >>> that Brooks hopes that it is. Global response to the Cambium appears to be >>> quite good. Certainly getting a lot of press on line. A niche has in fact >>> been touched. >>> >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
