Jim +1 on your assessment for sizing Riv Atlantis and Surly LHT.
My 62cm LHT fits similarly to the way my 64cm Atlantis did. Going to a 64cm LHT would also have me on a bike with a somewhat longer tt for the same bar height. I've got a short torso for my height and the extra reach would be unwelcome for my optimum choice of fit on a touring bike. Even on my 62, I'd love to bring the bars back another cm or so, but stems don't come that stubby! DC On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:12:22 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > What constitutes a "fistful", and why does such an arbitrary dimension > lead us around by the short hairs? Can't we go 2 cm either way and still > have an approximate fistful? I would say that in general, with Long Haul > Truckers and Cross-checks, go one size down from the Riv recommendation > simply because the way the two brands measure frame size is slightly > different. You'll still have an approximate fistful (depending on the size > of your fist), and the bike will better approximate the fit of the > recommended Riv size. If you measure a LHT the same way you measure an > Atlantis, a 56 LHT is more equivalent to a 58 cm Atlantis. I had a 58 > Atlantis for years, but a 58 Trucker felt big to me. > > On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:38:53 AM UTC-5, Matt Beebe wrote: >> >> "Buying a Surly using the Riv sizing guideline apples-to-apples is quite >> likely to result in a bike that's on the too-big side. " >> >> I could see that if you aimed for a fistful of seatpost on a >> Karate-Monkey, you'd end up with a bike that is too big. But it seems >> the Cross-check and LHT have similar geometries to say a Quickbeam or >> Atlantis, and could be sized using the basic Rivendell guidelines of >> seat-height minus 17cm or so. In my experience, they could, and it would >> not result in a bike that is too big at all. >> >> >> On Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:17:53 AM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha >> Cyclery wrote: >>> >>> All Cross-checks in all sizes come out of the box with 300 mm steerers. >>> With a 62 cm frame, there is nothing to cut off because the head tube is >>> long enough to allow a stem and maybe an inch or two of spacers. The old >>> Surly warranty stipulated that stem plus spacers shouldn't exceed 100 mm, >>> but last year they changed that, and now they say there is no limit on >>> steerer length. But this is important: with threaded steerers, the size of >>> the frame determines how high you can get the bars. If you want high bars, >>> get a big frame. This is the Rivendell way. This advice is completely >>> worthless with threadless steerers like Surly uses, because all sizes can >>> have the same handlebar height if you don't cut the steerer. So a 52 cm >>> frame can theoretically fit exactly the same as a 58 cm frame if the stem >>> length is long enough to make up the difference. Buying a Surly using the >>> Riv sizing guideline apples-to-apples is quite likely to result in a bike >>> that's on the too-big side. >>> >>> I will tell you that uncut steerers with a lot of spacers tend to get a >>> lot of negative commentary. Our Surly floor bikes usually sport this >>> feature, and everyday somebody asks me to justify it or comments that they >>> don't like the look. Yet of the bikes that sell, only a small fraction come >>> back to have the steerer shortened. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
