The more you describe it, the more I think that my custom is closest in geometry to those early Riv Road Standards. Being the 2nd owner, I don't know much about the history, but the gist of it was that he was probably too tall for an off the shelf Road Standard at 6'5". I'm a little taller at 6'7" but I think the frame works well for me for the most part.
At any rate I had the same issues with the Longboards that you mentioned, the front mudflap tended to catch and drag and the front tip of the rear fender is a bit squeezed in the chainstays. Although, I did mount the brake tab behind the fork, which I think magnified the mudflap dragging issues. I will be moving it to the front of the fork the next time the bike is in the stand. Hopefully that will help some. If not I might trim it up a bit. On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Tim Gavin <[email protected]>wrote: > The Waterford era ('94-97ish) Riv Road Standards do work for 650b > conversion, but they're not ideal. Mine is an early '97, with a max of > 700x28x tires (less than 2mm of clearance above Ruffy Tuffy's) > > I converted mine from 700x28c to 650x38b, which dropped the bike 9mm (lost > 19mm of rim, gained back 10mm of tire). I have scraped the outside edge of > the pedal once or twice, but I usually drag a heel before I drag a pedal. > A rare and avoidable occurrence, either way. > > 650x38b seems to be the maximum tire on this frame, as both fork blades > and chainstays are too tight for 42mm Hetres, as far as I can see > (currently running 38mm Lierre). > > This conversion makes room for P45 Longboard fenders, but the front tip of > the rear fender is squeezed a bit in the chainstays. Also, the long > mudflap becomes a big leaf scoop; I take it off on non-rainy days. I'll > probably add the shorty mudflap to my next Riv order. > > Tim > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Philip Williamson < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> 23mm 700c = 42mm 650B; >> 32mm 700c = 50mm 650B >> >> http://www.biketinker.com/2011/bike-resources/equivalent-bicycle-wheel-diameter-with-different-tires/ >> >> >> I had a nice chat today with a fellow at the bike shop (an employee) who >> had put 650B GIGANTIC knobbies on his Surly 1x1, which was designed for 559 >> tires. I was at the shop scaling back the gravel roadster's tire size in >> order to go tubeless (no direct connection of size to tubeless, just that >> the kevlar bead Supremes I have are smaller than my wire bead Big Apples). >> >> Philip >> www.biketinker.com >> >> >> On Sunday, November 24, 2013 5:29:00 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> Isn't the sole point of this conversion exercise that you can use >>> *fatter* tires, and significantly fatter tires? So, while you might lose >>> some bb height, you won't lose nearly the whole 19 mm ....? >>> >>> A 622X23 mm tire is about 26 1/2" in diameter. A 559 X 1" tire is about >>> 24" in diameter. A 559X35 mm tire is about 25" in diameter. A 559 X 50 tire >>> is about 26" in diameter. I cite these only as being directly or indirectly >>> relevant sizes known to me by experience. >>> >>> Thus, if you went from a 700C X 25 to a 650B X 42, which seems common, >>> wouldn't you gain back some 10 to 15 mm? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 5:33 PM, dougP <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Jim: >>>> >>>> So you took a 700c wheeled bike & converted to 650b? Ignoring the >>>> tires for the moment, doesn't that lower everything 19 mm? What effect >>>> does it have on the handling? I've read about picking a wheel size & >>>> designing a bike around that, so this seems a radical change. OTH, people >>>> have been converting 80s era bikes to 650 with good result. How did you >>>> know this was going to work? >>>> >>>> dougP >>>> >>>> On Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:33:39 PM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> https://plus.google.com/photos/110759113894226395434/albums/ >>>>> 5948811384486030177 >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully link works. Set to public. >>>>> >>>>> Cream SKS Long boards are on the way from Rivendell. But the rest of >>>>> it is mostly complete. 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